Relativity Question: Two spaceships following each other near C

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In summary, the conversation discusses the equations needed to calculate the velocity of two spacecrafts, frame A and frame B, as observed by each other. The equations consider the effects of relativity on the observed velocity and take into account the reference frame from which the velocity is measured. The conversation also includes an example scenario where ship A is traveling at 0.6c and ship B is traveling at 0.8c, and the equation to calculate the observed velocity between the two ships is provided.
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Howdy,

What equations do I use to calculate how frame A observes frame B's velocity and vice versa if two spacecraft are following each other?

is it:

v = ux + v / ( 1 + (Ux*v)/(c^2))

I have a feeling it isn't since if both craft are traveling say, 2.5*10^8 m/s, then the observed speed from another frame is .98c off the top of my head. I know this is relativity and all, but shouldn't frame A perceive frame B as simply going 0 m/s?
 
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That is correct, if the 2 ships would have the same velocity then you do not need to use the equations of SR. Note that there must be some reference frame from which they measure a velocity of .95c. That is the frame which must use relativity calculate the ships speed and distance traveled.
 
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Thanks.

Now let's say ship A is traveling .6c and ship B is traveling .8c, a would view b speed as...

v = ux - v / ( 1-(ux*v)/(c^2))

or

v = (.8c - .6c) / ( 1- (.6c*.8c)/(c^2) = .34c

so ship A view ships B as traveling .34c faster?
 
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relativitydude said:
Now let's say ship A is traveling .6c and ship B is traveling .8c, a would view b speed as...
Assuming you mean that A travels at 0.6c and B travels a 0.8c with respect to some common frame.
v = ux - v / ( 1-(ux*v)/(c^2))
Right.
v = (.8c - .6c) / ( 1- (.6c*.8c)/(c^2) = .34c
Closer to 0.38c
so ship A view ships B as traveling .34c faster?
Ship A sees ship B moving at a speed of 0.38c with respect to ship A. And vice versa.
 
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use:
[tex] u' = \frac {u+v}{1- \frac{uv}{c^2}} [/tex]
 
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Thanks Everyone :)
 

1. What is the theory of relativity?

The theory of relativity is a fundamental theory in physics that explains the relationship between space and time. It was first developed by Albert Einstein in the early 20th century and is divided into two parts: the special theory of relativity and the general theory of relativity.

2. How does the theory of relativity relate to two spaceships near the speed of light?

The theory of relativity states that the laws of physics are the same for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. This means that the two spaceships, even though they are traveling at high speeds, will observe the same physical laws as an observer on Earth.

3. What happens to time and space near the speed of light according to relativity?

According to the theory of relativity, time and space are relative and can be affected by the speed and gravity of an object. Near the speed of light, time slows down and space contracts, leading to the phenomenon of time dilation and length contraction.

4. Can anything travel faster than the speed of light according to relativity?

No, according to the theory of relativity, the speed of light is the maximum speed at which anything can travel. This is because as an object approaches the speed of light, its mass increases, making it more and more difficult to accelerate.

5. Is the theory of relativity proven?

Yes, the theory of relativity has been extensively tested and proven through numerous experiments and observations. It has also been incorporated into many modern technologies, such as GPS systems, which rely on the principles of relativity to function accurately.

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