Proving Inequality: Solving Im(z) and Re(z) with Triangle Inequality

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In summary, the conversation discusses proving an inequality involving y=im(z) and x=Re(z). The reverse triangle inequality is suggested as a method and the poster is asked to show what they have tried and where they got stuck. The poster then shares their approach using the absolute value of sin z and asks for confirmation of its correctness. The responder points out flaws in the approach and suggests breaking the problem into two parts, proving \left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} and \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{
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Hello
I need to prove this inequality:
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where y=im(z) ,x=Re(z).

I used the triangle inequality but I got stuck.
Can someone show me how to do it? specially the left side of the inequality.
thanks
 
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Show what you have tried, and where you got stuck.

That way it will be easier for use to give the appropriate help.
 
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Don't forget about the reverse triangle inequality: |x - y| >= ||x| - |y||
 
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It will be easier to break this into two problems. First prove that [itex]\left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2}[/itex] , then prove that [itex]\left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}[/itex].

Also, use [itex] \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} [/itex] .
 
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sir_manning said:
It will be easier to break this into two problems. First prove that [itex]\left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2}[/itex] , then prove that [itex]\left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}[/itex].

Also, use [itex] \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} [/itex] .

That's what i did. can you please look at my answer? isn't it correct?
thank you.
 
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Sorry, I see that you did write [itex] \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} [/itex]. However, I don't understand how you came up with your answer: where did the absolute value signs in [itex] \left| \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} \right| [/itex] emerge from? You can't just insert them. And how did you re-arrange the inequality? Was there a typo in your original statement of the problem? In any case, your answer doesn't prove the inequality, because I cannot see its validity just by looking at it. With these types of problems, you really need to break it down to something like [itex] -e^{-y} \leq e^{-y} \; \Rightarrow \; -1 \leq 1 [/itex], which we can all agree is true. Also, in proofs you *need* to show your steps, and you always should here anyways so we can help you out.

Alright, let's try doing this one part at a time. First, prove that:

[itex] \left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} [/itex], or

[itex] \left| \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} [/itex]. Cancel the 2's, multiply by i/i and rearrange exponentials on the left,

[itex] \left| -i e^{ix} e^{-y} + i e^{-ix} e^y \right| \leq e^{y} + e^{-y} [/itex] ...Now try applying the triangle inequality to this. After proving this, a similar approach is used for [itex] \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2} [/itex]
 
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