It doesn't make sense to get negative

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At no point in your reasoning did you make any attempt to use a single variable to represent the position of the two cars at the same time. You tried to use "x" to represent the "position" of each car without ever saying what "x" actually meant. Without specifying what "x" means, you cannot use it as a variable.
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The speed of car A is 72.2 km/h while the speed of car B is 53 km/h. If car B is now 48 km ahead of car A, how much time is needed for car A to catch up with car B?


car A
let x = the current position of car A
speed = 72.2 km/h
time = x/72.2 hours

car B
let x + 48 = the current position of car B
speed = 53 km/h
time = (x + 48)/53 hours

so, both cars will have traveled for the same amount of time when car A catches up with car B.

then, x/72.2 = (x + 48)/53

solving for x gives x = -180.5 km
thus, time of car A is -2.5 hours.

You cannot have negative time.

Could someone explain my solution? Thanks.
 
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What does "time of car A" mean, and what does it have to do with the problem?
 
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Perhaps start with a picture of the problem and take the intial position of A to be at the origin to simplify things a little. Then write the position as a function of time for both cars. If you do this and be careful with signs, that should correct your error.
 
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Davedave, instead of expressing the "times", write:


[itex]A\left ( t \right ) = ...[/itex] (position of car A at time [itex]t[/itex])
[itex]B\left ( t \right ) = ...[/itex] (position of car B at time [itex]t[/itex])

And express what "to catch up" means in terms of these functions.
 
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davedave said:
The speed of car A is 72.2 km/h while the speed of car B is 53 km/h. If car B is now 48 km ahead of car A, how much time is needed for car A to catch up with car B?car A
let x = the current position of car A
There is no point in including this at all. Set up your "coordinate system" so that when t= 0, x= 0.

speed = 72.2 km/h
time = x/72.2 hours
This is time to go "x" km but doesn't tell you anything. "x" is not relevant to the problem.

car B
let x + 48 = the current position of car B
Since we are taking x= 0, this is just 48 km ahead of A.

speed = 53 km/h
time = (x + 48)/53 hours
Again, this is just the time B would have taken to get to its current position and is irrelevant.

so, both cars will have traveled for the same amount of time when car A catches up with car B.

then, x/72.2 = (x + 48)/53
No, these are the times until they reach their current positions (with A 48 km behind B) and you don't know that they are the same because you don't know where they started.

Instead do this in either of two ways:
1) Taking A's current position as our x= 0 point in t hours A will have gone 72.2t km and be at position x= 72.2t. In that same t hours, B will have gone 53t km and will be at x= 53t+ 48. Set those equal and solve for t.

2) Since speed is "relative", do everything "relative to B", treating B as if it were standing still. A is "closing on B" at a relative speed of 72.2- 53= 19.2 km per hour. How long will it take A to cover the 48 km between it and B?

solving for x gives x = -180.5 km
thus, time of car A is -2.5 hours.

You cannot have negative time.

Could someone explain my solution? Thanks.
No, because your "solution" is based on faulty reasoning.
 

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