Feynman rules - where's the physics?

In summary, the goal is to compute cross sections for various scattering experiments. The Feynman rules are a mnemonic for computing very complicated quantum mechanical amplitudes, whose magnitude-squared gives you probabilities for various processes to occur, such as the probability that an electron and a positron would collide and create a muon and an antimuon, for example. Hope this helps!
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I have been studying how to apply the Feynman rules for QED to various simple first order process (as prescribed by Griffiths' 'Introduction to Elementary Particles').

So far, all is well. I can follow the rules, and develop the results, and it all looks very clever. My problem is that so far, I feel like I'm just following a very well cut out recipe.

My question, therefore, is where is the physics? I am told to introduce a factor for each vertex, the electron propagator is so-and-so, etc. etc. This is all very well, but I'm not sure I feel satisfied with what I have learned until I understand at least the mathematical framework from whick the Feynman Rules derive, better still, the fundamental physics behind this framework.

Can anyone recommend where to look for these answers?

Cheers,

Simon
 
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The goal is to compute cross sections for various scattering experiments (as well as similar quantities). Feynman rules are a mnemonic for computing very complicated quantum mechanical amplitudes, whose magnitude-squared gives you probabilities for various processes to occur, such as the probability that an electron and a positron would collide and create a muon and an antimuon, for example.

Hope that helps!
 
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As to the rest of your question: you can start by looking at the very end of Griffiths where he introduces Lagrangians. For a more in-depth description, I would recommend "Quantum Field Theory in a Nutshell" by Tony Zee.

But if you're really serious, you should take a look at a QFT textbook, such as Peskin and Schroder, or Itzykson and Zuber, or Ryder. But these are quite advanced: you really should have a very good understanding of quantum mechanics before you dive into these books.
 
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SimonRoberts said:
My problem is that so far, I feel like I'm just following a very well cut out recipe.

My question, therefore, is where is the physics?
If you're looking for a "description of what actually happens", there isn't one. The theory is just a set of rules that tells you how to calculate probabilities of possibilities. I think the best you can do is probably to study how the particle concept emerges from SR and QM (e.g. Weinberg's QFT book, chapter 2), and at some point, also the mathematics of gauge invariance (e.g. Isham's differential geometry book followed by Baez and Muniain's book). But don't bother with that second thing right away. It also helps to study several books with different approaches, e.g. Srednicki, Zee and Weinberg.
 
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Thanks for the excellent replies guys.

I had realized that the Feynman diagrams were as you say a mneumonic for the complicated QM processes. The characteristic adjoint*operator*statevector structure of the fermion lines was the giveaway there.

What I really mean is that I want to understand the QM that the Feynman rules represent.

I will have a look at those books you recommend.

Many thanks,


Simon
 
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SimonRoberts said:
What I really mean is that I want to understand the QM that the Feynman rules represent.
Simon

I think I understand what you are after here. Hope a few comments help:

The Feynman rules come out of a theory Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) which is a type of quantum field theory.The key thing to appreciate is how quantum field theory differs from basic quantum mechanics.

Quantum mechanics as first developed describes a single non-relativistic particle eg. an electron. At low energies particles are stable so we can use a wavefunction to decribe a single particle.

When we move over to relativistic quantum mechanics, firstly of course we need a theory which incorporates the ideas of special relativistic (and QED does this), but more fundementally it has to incorporate a new physical idea: the idea that at sufficiently high energy a particles energy can be transformed into other particles, eg. two electrons can collide, be anililated and form other particles. The quantum field theory formalism allows for this by starting with a quantum field. Then individual particles are descibed as excitations of the quantum field. For example during an interaction of sufficient energy an electron-positron pair can form out of the vacuum. This could not be decribed by the basic quantum mechanics.

Hope this gets you going.
 
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The probability of a scattering to take place is given by the scattering matrix, this can be related to correlation functions via the LSZ formula, these correlation functions can then be related to feynman diagrams/rules by a perturbative expansion and the use of wicks theorem.
(Maybe this can give you some hints on what parts of, for example, Peskin and Schroeder to look at)
 

What are Feynman rules and how are they used in physics?

Feynman rules are a set of mathematical tools used in particle physics to calculate the probabilities of different particle interactions. They are based on the Feynman diagram technique, where each line in the diagram represents a particle and each vertex represents an interaction. By using these rules, physicists can predict the outcomes of particle collisions.

How were Feynman rules developed?

Feynman rules were developed by American physicist Richard Feynman in the 1940s. He used his understanding of quantum mechanics and special relativity to create a graphical representation of particle interactions, which later became known as Feynman diagrams. From these diagrams, he derived the rules that govern the mathematical calculations of particle interactions.

What is the importance of Feynman rules in particle physics?

Feynman rules are essential for understanding and predicting the behavior of subatomic particles. They provide a systematic way to calculate the probabilities of different particle interactions, which is crucial for testing and validating theoretical models. Without Feynman rules, it would be much more difficult to make accurate predictions about the behavior of particles in experiments.

Are there any limitations to using Feynman rules?

While Feynman rules are a powerful tool in particle physics, they do have limitations. They are based on the assumption that particles follow classical mechanics, and they do not take into account the effects of quantum fluctuations. Additionally, they can become increasingly complex and difficult to use when there are more particles involved in an interaction.

How do Feynman rules relate to Feynman diagrams?

Feynman rules and Feynman diagrams are closely related. The rules are derived from the diagrams, which visually represent the mathematical calculations of particle interactions. Each line in the diagram corresponds to a specific term in the Feynman rule equation. By using the rules, physicists can translate the diagrams into mathematical calculations and make predictions about particle behavior.

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