Vibrations heard when a cradle ascends for cleaning a high rise building

In summary, Bobby and Alpha Zero said that the people near the top floor are probably hearing the cables vibrating because of the wind, and that adding weight to the cables or railings might be a solution.
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hello all.there is a electric hoist cradle(Temporary personnel lifting;make fixator) which one of our contractor uses to clean the outside glasses of a high rise building.the cables are suspended up at the top railing with fasteners and then the electric motor escalates the cradle for use.the problem is that this building is right next to the sea and powerful wind blows all around.people near the top floor complain that when this cradle is in use(some where near or between the top floor) they HEAR periodic VIBRATION or a humming sound.i have set out to investigate the cause of this and how to rectify it.please help!

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My first guess is the folks near the top floor are hearing the cables vibrating in the wind, sometimes called "strumming". it would be difficult to inhibit this because of the constant winds. One could attach masses, for example, to the cables which would change their resonant frequency, but not very practical or simple. Just as with a guitar string, adding tension increases the frequency of vibration. So, if the cables and the mechanism can safely tolerate more weight, you might try adding weight to the platforms. My quick analysis is: tell them to get used to the sound.

Here is an example of a similar problem, but this cable being towed through the water:
“Cable fairing is a structure attached to a towed cable designed to streamline the flow around the cable, primarily in marine environments.
Cables are faired primarily for two reasons: (1) to reduce normal drag and thus achieve more depth for a given cable scope and speed; and (2) to eliminate cable vibration caused by vortex shedding, commonly known as cable strum.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_fairing
 
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As post #2 said you probably can't stop the cables vibrating, but you might be able to isolate the vibrations from getting into the structure of the building. These noises are often transmitted through the steel frame of the building and then into the rooms through the walls, not as sounds traveling through the air.

That could explain why the complaints are coming from the top floor, closest to the cable attachment point.
 
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thank you bobby and alpha zero for your kind replies..it did however strike me that this problems relates more to harmonics ..cause overlapping cables can form LOOPS and the blizzards can make them vibrate...you may have also seen the RAILINGS on the top on which the cables are SUSPENDED.what can be done to STOP these vibrations being tranmsitted to the steel structure of the building as alphazero rightly pointed out..?..will increasing the number of brackets do a good deal?railings and brackets are indicated on the diagram...

thank you a lot
 

1. What causes the vibrations heard when a cradle ascends for cleaning a high rise building?

The vibrations are caused by the motor and gears of the cradle as it moves upwards, as well as friction between the cradle and the building's facade.

2. Are these vibrations dangerous for the building or its occupants?

In most cases, these vibrations are not dangerous for the building or its occupants. However, it is important for the cradle to be inspected and maintained regularly to ensure its safe operation.

3. Can these vibrations cause damage to the building?

In rare cases, excessive vibrations can cause damage to the building's facade, particularly if the building is old or has existing structural issues. It is important for the cradle to be properly maintained and for the cleaning company to follow safety protocols to minimize the risk of damage.

4. How can the vibrations be reduced?

The vibrations can be reduced by ensuring that the cradle is properly maintained, and that the cleaning company follows recommended safety protocols. In some cases, using specialized equipment such as vibration dampeners can also help to reduce vibrations.

5. Are there any safety measures in place to prevent accidents related to these vibrations?

Yes, there are several safety measures in place to prevent accidents related to these vibrations. This includes regular maintenance and inspections of the cradle, following safety protocols and regulations, and providing proper training and safety equipment for workers.

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