Number of electron of a Hydrogen atom (molecule)

In summary, you cannot find the number of electrons in a hydrogen atom by integrating the wave function over the surface of a sphere. The normalization constant is 1.
  • #1
torehan
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Hi,
If the normalized 1D wave-function of hydrogen atom for n=1, l=0, m_l=0;

[tex]\psi_{1s}(x)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi} a_{0}^{3/2}}e^{-x/a_{0}}[/tex]

and probability distribution of wave-function,

[tex]\mid\psi_{1s}(x)^2\mid[/tex]

so integration of rho over all x should give the number of electrons which is equal to 1

[tex]\int{\mid\psi_{1s}(x)^2\mid}dx=1[/tex]

theory is simple and understandable. But when I apply a numerical procedure to this mathematical aspect I couldn't get the right result.
With a very simple computer program,hoping to find number of electrons, I use the easiest integration technique as converting integral to a discrete sum of each value of the charge density function multiplied by dx which is increment of variable x,

Code:
a0=0.53;
x=-10*a0:0.001:10*a0; 
R=-0.36;
NORM=1/sqrt(%pi*a0^3);
dx=20*a0/size(x,2);
nelect=0;

psi1s=NORM*exp(-abs((x-R))/a0);
rho1s=psi1s^2;
for i=1:size(x,2)
  nelect=nelect+rho(i)*dx;
end
return nelect;
Code:
> nelect= 1.1331234

But this doesn't return the correct value of nelect.

Am I making a fundamental mistake which I couldn't see right now?

Thanks
 
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  • #2
torehan said:
If the normalized 1D wave-function of hydrogen atom for n=1, l=0, m_l=0;

Well, there's your problem: There's no 1-dimensional wave function here, it's a 3-dimensional function in spherical coordinates, where your 'x' is the radial distance (usually denoted r). It's just that you don't have an angle-dependency for s-type functions..

So the normalization is:
[tex]\int |\psi(\vec{x})|^2 dV = \int_0^{2\pi}\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}\int_0^\infty |\psi(r,\theta,\varphi)|^2 r^2 sin(\theta) dr d\theta d\varphi = 1[/tex]

If you don't have an angle-dependency then you just integrate over the surface of a sphere, so:
[tex]\int_0^{2\pi}\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}\int_0^\infty |\psi(r,\theta,\varphi)|^2 r^2 sin(\theta) dr d\theta d\varphi = 2\pi \int_0^\infty r^2 |\psi(r)|^2 dr = 1[/tex]
 
  • #3
That last line should read:

[tex]\int_0^{2\pi}\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}\int_0^\infty |\psi(r,\theta,\varphi)|^2 r^2 sin(\theta) dr d\theta d\varphi = 4\pi \int_0^\infty r^2 |\psi(r)|^2 dr = 1[/tex]
 
  • #4
(1-(-1))*2*pi = 4*pi.. you're right! :)
 
  • #5
Thanks for the replies.

But I'm not sure about the boundaries of the integration with respect to [tex]r[/tex] and [tex]\varphi[/tex]

I think the integration over all space must be like,

[tex]\int_0^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{-\infty}^\infty |\psi(r,\theta,\varphi)|^2 r^2 sin(\theta) dr d\theta d\varphi = 2\pi \int_{-\infty}^\infty r^2 |\psi_{1s}|^2 dr = 1[/tex]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  • #6
Assuming that

[tex]
\int_0^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{-\infty}^\infty |\psi(r,\theta,\varphi)|^2 r^2 sin(\theta) dr d\theta d\varphi = 2\pi \int_{-\infty}^\infty r^2 |\psi_{1s}|^2 dr = 1
[/tex]

is correct,
If I use a Gaussian as a hydrogen 1s wave-function what would be the normalization constant?

(And here is the question one. Which one is the correct form for a Gaussian wave-function? 2nd. one?)
1.
[tex]\psi_{1s}(r)=Ne^{-r/a_{0}}[/tex]
2.
[tex]\psi_{1s}(r)=Ne^{-r^2/a_{0}}[/tex]
[tex]\int\mid\psi_{1s}(r)\mid^2dV=N^2\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{r^2/a_{0}^2}dV=1[/tex]
[tex]\int_0^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{-\infty}^\infty |\psi_{1s}(r,\theta,\varphi)|^2 r^2 sin(\theta) dr d\theta d\varphi = 2\pi \int_{-\infty}^\infty r^2 |\psi_{1s}(r)|^2 dr = 1[/tex]

[tex]2\pi N^2\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}r^2dre^{r^2/a0^2}=1[/tex]

where [tex]a=1/a_0^2[/tex]
[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}r^2dre^{-ar^2}= \frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{a^3}}[/tex][tex] \frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{a^3}}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\pi}a_0^3[/tex]

[tex]N^2=\frac{1}{a_0^3 \pi^{3/2}}[/tex]

I think derivation of normalization constant like that. Can you see anything nonsense?Even I integrate normalized wave-function I couldn't get the result 1. ouf!
 
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  • #7
You're right that theta goes from 0 to pi. I missed that before. But r goes from 0 to infinity. A radius by definition must be greater than zero. So the angular integrals give:
[tex]\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^\pi sin(\theta)d\theta d\phi = 2\pi (-cos(\pi)+cos(0)) = 4\pi[/tex]
Of course we know that the surface area of a sphere is 4 pi r^2, so the angular integral mustgive 4 pi. As far as the radial integral, the radial wavefunction goes like exp(-r/a0), not exp(-r^2/a0). Try this reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_atom
 
  • #8
Trying again to get the LateX right. Note that:[tex](e^{-\frac{r}{a_0}})^2 = e^{-\frac{2 r}{a_0}}, NOT e^{-\frac{r^2}{a_0^2}}[/tex]
 
  • #9
I have problems on getting used to latex.

Thanks
 

1. What is the number of electrons in a Hydrogen atom?

The number of electrons in a Hydrogen atom is 1.

2. Why does a Hydrogen atom have 1 electron?

Hydrogen, being the first element on the periodic table, has 1 proton and 1 electron, making it have a neutral charge.

3. Can a Hydrogen atom have more than 1 electron?

No, a Hydrogen atom can only have 1 electron as the first energy level can only hold a maximum of 2 electrons.

4. How does the number of electrons affect the properties of a Hydrogen molecule?

The number of electrons in a Hydrogen molecule directly affects its chemical and physical properties, such as its reactivity and polarity.

5. How does the number of electrons in a Hydrogen molecule compare to other elements?

The number of electrons in a Hydrogen molecule is unique compared to other elements as it only has 1 electron, while other elements have varying numbers of electrons depending on their position on the periodic table.

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