Answer Conical Pendulum: Determine Angle in Car Traveling Circular Road

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In summary, the conversation discusses the topic of a simple pendulum suspended inside a car traveling in a circular motion. The question is to determine the angle that the pendulum string will make with the vertical. The conversation includes steps to solve this problem, including finding the forces and torques involved and using mathematical equations to solve for the angle. The topic being discussed is related to conical pendulum.
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A simple pendulum is suspended inside a car. The car then travels around a flat circular road of radius 350m at a constant speed of 30 ms-1 Determine the angle which the pendulum string will make with the vertical.

this question is related to which topic?? (is it conical pendulum??)

please help me to answer this question...
 
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This is actually pretty simple. There is a constant acceleration towards the centre of the circle, so this question can be simplified to a static situation. The pendulum is not moving back and forth, it is suspended at a constant angle. This angle is related to the acceleration(which is the same acceleration you feel when a car is turning on a freeway ramp). Further, it is a simple pendulum so there is a point mass 'm' at the end of a weightless shaft of length 'd'. You have to figure out the equilibrium position of this pendulum, which is the angle at which the torque due to gravity on the pendulum is equal to the torque due to the circular motion.

Steps:
1)There are two forces, one is gravity, and the other is caused by circular motion. You know the value of gravity, so find the force caused by circular motion.
2) Find the torque on the pendulum due to gravity (in terms of the angle). To clarify this, if the pendulum is sitting vertically downwards, there will be no torque due to gravity because the angle with the vertical is 0. This is the equilibrium position if the car isn't accelerating.
3) Next you have to find the torque on the pendulum due to your circular motion.
*be careful here with your sines and cosines*. The force of centripetal acceleration is towards the centre of the circle (in the plane of the ground), while the force of gravity is downwards(making a 90 degree angle with the ground).
4) After you have found each of these equations, you can equate them by the condition that the torques are equal, and solve for the angle.

Above are good mathematical steps, but if this type of problem is something new to you, you should draw out a really nice Free Body Diagram. It will help you sort out the angles and understand the problem more thoroughly.
 
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just use horizontal component

[itex]mgtanθ-ma=0[/itex] [a=centripetal force]

and

[itex]a=\frac{v^{2}}{r}[/itex]

to solve the eqn right??

[itex]θ=tan^{-1}(\frac{a}{g})[/itex]
[itex]θ=tan^{-1}(\frac{v^{2}}{rg})[/itex]
[itex]θ=tan^{-1}(\frac{(30ms^{-1})^{2}}{(350m)(9.81ms^{-2})})[/itex]
[itex]θ=14.7[/itex]
 
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I didn't plug in your numbers but your original equation is correct. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that you did, but its right.
 
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Yes, this topic is related to the conical pendulum, which is a type of pendulum that moves in a circular motion rather than a back-and-forth motion. In this scenario, the pendulum is attached to the car and is affected by the centripetal force of the car's circular motion. The angle that the pendulum string makes with the vertical is known as the conical angle and can be calculated using the given information about the car's speed and the radius of the circular road.
 

1. What is a conical pendulum?

A conical pendulum is a type of pendulum that swings in a circular motion rather than back and forth in a straight line. It consists of a mass attached to a string or rod that is suspended from a fixed point, creating a cone-shaped swing.

2. How is the angle of a conical pendulum determined?

The angle of a conical pendulum can be determined by measuring the radius of the circular path it travels in and the length of the string or rod. Using trigonometry, the angle can be calculated using the formula: θ = sin-1(r/L), where θ is the angle, r is the radius, and L is the length of the string or rod.

3. What is the purpose of determining the angle in a car traveling on a circular road?

Determining the angle in a car traveling on a circular road can help in understanding the forces acting on the car and the motion of the car. It can also be used to determine the speed at which the car is traveling and the radius of the curve in the road.

4. How does a conical pendulum relate to circular motion in a car?

A conical pendulum and circular motion in a car are both examples of circular motion, where an object moves in a circular path around a fixed point. In a conical pendulum, the mass is moving in a circular path around the fixed point of suspension, while in a car, the car itself is moving in a circular path around the center of the curve in the road.

5. What factors can affect the angle of a conical pendulum in a car traveling on a circular road?

The angle of a conical pendulum in a car traveling on a circular road can be affected by the speed of the car, the radius of the curve in the road, the length of the string or rod, and the mass of the object attached to the string or rod. Other factors such as air resistance and friction may also have an impact.

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