Sizing Secondary Systems

In summary, the conversation is discussing opinions on secondary circulator and piping design for a heating system with two boilers and a primary loop. The boiler manufacturer suggests a formula for determining the secondary gpm, but the speaker is questioning whether it is better to use less water at a higher temperature or more water at a lower temperature. They are seeking help from @russ_watters with a workshop question.
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I would like to get some opinions on secondary circulator and piping design for heating system.

System Description:

Two (2) boilers each one is 75% of building total heating load. Each with a secondary circulator pumping to a manifold into a primary loop. The return piping comes from a second manifold adjacent to to supply manifold.

Primary loop with two (2) parallel circulators moving the heating water 100% of the heating load using a 20 deg F TD to the building and through the equipment.

Okay, the boiler manufacturer suggests the formula:

Gross Output BTUH/(Temp Rise x 500) = Secondary gpm

Temp Rise = 230 deg F - Return Water Temp

I know that the boiler can handle higher flows than will be obtained through this formula (with a 70 deg Temp Rise and a 515,000 btuh boiler I only get 14.7 gpm).

So which is better, use less water at higher temperature, or use more water at lower, closer to system, temperature? Or is it best to figure a compromise and go with that? Say a 40 deg F or 50 deg F temperature rise in the boiler?
 
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1. What is the purpose of sizing secondary systems?

The purpose of sizing secondary systems is to determine the appropriate size and capacity for the system components in order to meet the required performance and safety standards. This includes selecting the correct size for pipes, pumps, valves, and other equipment to ensure optimal operation and efficiency.

2. How is the sizing of secondary systems determined?

The sizing of secondary systems is typically determined through a combination of calculations and engineering analysis. Factors such as flow rate, pressure, temperature, and system requirements are considered in order to select the appropriate components and their sizes.

3. What factors should be taken into account when sizing secondary systems?

When sizing secondary systems, factors such as the type of fluid being transported, the desired flow rate and pressure, the layout of the system, and any potential safety hazards should be carefully considered. Other factors may include temperature, corrosion resistance, and maintenance requirements.

4. Are there any industry standards for sizing secondary systems?

Yes, there are industry standards and guidelines that provide recommended practices for sizing secondary systems. These may vary depending on the specific industry and application, but they often include factors such as flow rates, pressure drops, and safety requirements.

5. Can secondary systems be resized if needed?

Yes, secondary systems can be resized if needed. This may be necessary if there are changes in the system requirements or if the system is not performing as expected. It is important to carefully consider all factors and consult with an expert before making any changes to the sizing of secondary systems.

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