Generating Expressions For Electric Flux

In summary, the electric flux through the curved surface is greater than the electric flux through the flat face.
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Homework Statement


A particle with charge Q is located immediately above the center of the flat face of a hemisphere of radius R as shown in the figure below.

(a) What is the electric flux through the curved surface? (Use any variable or symbol stated above along with the following as necessary: ε0.)

(b) What is the electric flux through the flat face? (Use any variable or symbol stated above along with the following as necessary: ε0.)


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The Attempt at a Solution


Taking the surface area equation for a sphere, and dividing by two: [itex]2 \pi r^2[/itex]

Area equation for a circle: [itex]\pi r^2[/itex]

The expression for (a): [itex]\Phi = E2 \pi r^2[/itex]

The expression for (b): [itex]\Phi = E \pi r^2[/itex]

These are incorrect. What did I do wrong?
 

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You didn't express the answers in terms of the symbols required. Part (b) doesn't look correct.
 
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Well, what other relationships should I use, in order to put it in the form that question asks for?
 
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What does E stand for in your answers? What produces E? Can you express E in terms of the symbols Q, R, and εo?
 
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Oh, so for (a): [itex]\Phi = \large \frac{Q}{2 \epsilon_0} [/itex] Which would make sense, seeing as if the object were a sphere, and it enclosed the charge at its center, the whole sphere would experience an electric flux of [itex]\Phi = \large \frac{Q}{\epsilon_0}[/itex]; but since it is half a sphere, half of the of electric field is emanating away from the bottom half of this sphere.
 
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Yes, that looks correct.
 
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You said that my answer for part (b) didn't look correct, care to elaborate? I'd appreciate it.
 
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In general the flux through an area is not simply the product of the magnitude of E and the area. That only works if the field is uniform over the surface and perpendicular to the surface. Neither of these conditions is met for the flat face.
 
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The field isn't parallel to the area vector at any point on the circular surface? How am I to solve this part, then?
 
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Think Gauss' law which applies to any closed surface.
 
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This isn't a closed surface, though.
 
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Right. The flat surface by itself is not a closed surface. But is it part of a closed surface?
 
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Yes. What does that imply?
 
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What does Gauss' law tell you about the total flux through this particular closed surface?
 
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Does it have to do with the amount of electric fields going into the surface equals the amount exiting? Meaning the flux is the same for both surfaces? Why is this true?
 
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Bashyboy said:
Does it have to do with the amount of electric fields going into the surface equals the amount exiting? Meaning the flux is the same for both surfaces? Why is this true?

Can you state Gauss' law?
 
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I looked at Wikipedia's definition, but I am unable to state it in my own words.
 
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Wkipedia says "The electric flux through any closed surface is proportional to the enclosed electric charge". How much charge is enclosed in your closed surface?
 
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There isn't any charge within the closed surface; only electric fields pass through the surface.
 
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Bashyboy said:
There isn't any charge within the closed surface; only electric fields pass through the surface.

That's right. Since Gauss' law states that the total flux through the closed surface is proportional to the charge within, what can you deduce about the value of the total flux?
 
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That the amount of electric field lines entering the surface is proportional to amount leaving. So the two expressions will be the same. How can I show this mathematically?
 
  • #22
There's not much to do mathematically.

Fill in the blanks below: :wink:

Gauss' law says that the net flux through any closed surface equals the charge enclosed divided by εo. Since there's no charge enclosed, the net flux through the closed surface is _____________.

Since the flux through the curved part of the surface is _____________, the flux through the flat disk is _____________.
 
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The net flux through the surface would be zero. Webassign accepted my answer to the first question, but it didn't accept for the second one. For part b), was I supposed to put a negative symbol in front of what I put in for part a), and that would be the answer?
 
  • #24
Yes. Total flux is zero. So, flux through curved surface + flux through flat surface = 0

Hence, flux through flat surface = - flux through curved surface.
 

1. What is electric flux?

Electric flux is a measure of the amount of electric field passing through a given area. It is a scalar quantity that represents the total number of electric field lines passing through a surface.

2. How is electric flux generated?

Electric flux is generated by the presence of an electric field. When an electric field is applied to a surface, the field lines pass through the surface and contribute to the electric flux.

3. What is the equation for electric flux?

The equation for electric flux is Φ = E x A x cosθ, where Φ represents electric flux, E represents electric field, A represents the area of the surface, and θ represents the angle between the electric field and the surface normal.

4. How does the orientation of the surface affect electric flux?

The orientation of the surface affects electric flux by changing the value of the angle θ in the electric flux equation. When the surface is parallel to the electric field, θ is equal to 0 and the electric flux is at its maximum. When the surface is perpendicular to the electric field, θ is equal to 90 degrees and the electric flux is 0.

5. What are some real-world applications of electric flux?

Electric flux has many practical applications, including in electric circuits, electric motors, and generators. It is also used in industries such as telecommunications, where it is used to measure the strength of electric fields and design efficient antennas.

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