L'hospital's rule with trig functions

In summary, the given problem is to evaluate the limit of a definite integral, \lim_{x \to 0} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt, using L'Hopital's rule and the chain rule. The solution involves rewriting the integral as a fraction, using the chain rule to differentiate the upper limit of integration, and then applying L'Hopital's rule to the resulting fraction. This simplifies the integral and allows for the limit to be evaluated.
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Shannabel
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Homework Statement


evaluate lim(x->0) (tan^8(t))dt(between 0 and sin^2x)


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


[tan^8(sin^2(x))]/sin^18(x)

my book says to use l'hospital's rule, so i continued with
[8tan^7(sin^2x)*sec^2(sin^2(X))*2sinxcosx]

but my book says i should just have
[tan^8(sin^2x)*2sinxcosx]/18sin^17(x)cos(x)

why did they only partially differentiate tan^8(sin^2(x))?
 
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Shannabel said:

Homework Statement


evaluate lim(x->0) (tan^8(t))dt(between 0 and sin^2x)
Is this supposed to be a definite integral? If so, is this the problem?
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt[/tex]

You can see the LaTeX I used by clicking on the integral.
Shannabel said:

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


[tan^8(sin^2(x))]/sin^18(x)
How did you get this?
Shannabel said:
my book says to use l'hospital's rule, so i continued with
[8tan^7(sin^2x)*sec^2(sin^2(X))*2sinxcosx]

but my book says i should just have
[tan^8(sin^2x)*2sinxcosx]/18sin^17(x)cos(x)

why did they only partially differentiate tan^8(sin^2(x))?
 
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Mark44 said:
Is this supposed to be a definite integral? If so, is this the problem?
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt[/tex]

You can see the LaTeX I used by clicking on the integral.
How did you get this?

no, it should be
[tex]\lim_{x \to0} 1/{sin^18(x)} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt[/tex]
 
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Shannabel said:
no, it should be
[tex]\lim_{x \to0} 1/{sin^18(x)} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt[/tex]

well i can't make it look right..
but it's 1/[sin^18(x)]
 
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Fixed it.
Tip: In LaTeX, if an exponent has more than one character (and that includes pos. or negative sign) put braces {} around it.
Shannabel said:
no, it should be
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1}{sin^{18}(x)} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt[/tex]
 
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OK, that makes more sense. L'Hopital's is applicable here.

In answer to your questions, they didn't "partially differentiate" the expression in the integrand - they used the chain rule.

You know (I think) this part of the Fund. Thm. of Calculus involving derivatives and definite integrals.
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} \int_a^x f(t)~dt~= f(x)[/tex]

If the limit of integration contains a function of x, then you need to use the chain rule.
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} \int_a^{g(x)} f(t)~dt~= \frac{d}{du} \int_a^{u} f(t)~dt * \frac{du}{dx}~= f(u) * du/dx[/tex]
 
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put 18 inside {} → ^{18}
Shannabel said:
no, it should be
[tex]\lim_{x \to0} 1/{sin^{18}(x)} \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt[/tex]

Is this the same as: [tex]\lim_{x \to0} \frac{ \int_0^{sin^2(x)} tan^8(t)~dt}{sin^{18}(x)} \ ?[/tex]
 
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Mark44 said:
OK, that makes more sense. L'Hopital's is applicable here.

In answer to your questions, they didn't "partially differentiate" the expression in the integrand - they used the chain rule.

You know (I think) this part of the Fund. Thm. of Calculus involving derivatives and definite integrals.
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} \int_a^x f(t)~dt~= f(x)[/tex]

If the limit of integration contains a function of x, then you need to use the chain rule.
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} \int_a^{g(x)} f(t)~dt~= \frac{d}{du} \int_a^{u} f(t)~dt * \frac{du}{dx}~= f(u) * du/dx[/tex]

that makes much more sense, thanks!
 

What is L'Hospital's rule with trig functions?

L'Hospital's rule with trig functions is a mathematical rule used to evaluate limits involving trigonometric functions. It states that if the limit of a quotient of two functions is indeterminate (i.e. it has the form 0/0 or ∞/∞), then the limit of the quotient of the derivatives of those functions will be the same as the limit of the original quotient.

How do you apply L'Hospital's rule with trig functions?

To apply L'Hospital's rule with trig functions, you first need to determine if the limit is indeterminate. If it is, then you can take the derivative of the numerator and denominator separately. After taking the derivatives, you can evaluate the new quotient, which should give you the same limit as the original one.

What are some examples of using L'Hospital's rule with trig functions?

One example of using L'Hospital's rule with trig functions is evaluating the limit of sin(x)/x as x approaches 0. Another example is evaluating the limit of (1-cos(x))/x^2 as x approaches 0. Both of these examples result in an indeterminate form, and L'Hospital's rule can be applied to find the limit.

Can L'Hospital's rule be used with any type of trigonometric function?

Yes, L'Hospital's rule can be used with any type of trigonometric function, including sine, cosine, tangent, cotangent, secant, and cosecant. However, the limit must still be indeterminate in order for the rule to be applied.

Are there any limitations to L'Hospital's rule with trig functions?

Yes, there are some limitations to L'Hospital's rule with trig functions. It can only be used when the limit is indeterminate, and it may not always give the correct result if the limit does not exist. It is also important to check for other possible methods of evaluating the limit before applying L'Hospital's rule.

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