Why Isn't the Child's Pulling Force Shown in the Free Body Diagram?

In summary, the conversation discusses the free body diagram of a child and a chair as one system, and the question is raised about the lack of a downward force from the child's hand while pulling on a rope. It is explained that according to Newton's 3rd law, the rope exerts an equal but opposite force on the child, and in a free body diagram, the upward tension force should be considered.
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I have a question for the question
http://tinyurl.com/2mftmr

The following is the solution for the question, and you can see the free body diagram for child only, chair only and chair and child as one system
http://tinyurl.com/32ozt9

For the free body diagram of chair and child as one system, the downward force including the weight of chair and the weight of child.
My question is: the problem has specified that "Pat pulls on the loose end of the rope", but why there doesn't exist a downward arrow from the child's hand because he is pulling down the rope?
 
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From Newton's 3rd law, since the child is pulling down on the rope with a force of 250N, then the rope is exerting an equal but opposite force on the child of 250N upward. Since you are looking in your FBD's for the forces acting on the child or child/chair system, it is the upward tension force you want to consider. Tension forces always pull away from the objects on which they act.
 
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Thank you for your question. In a free body diagram, we typically only show the external forces acting on the system, not the forces applied by the system itself. In this case, the child's hand pulling on the rope is considered an internal force within the system, and therefore is not shown in the free body diagram. The only external forces acting on the system are the weight of the child and the weight of the chair, as well as the tension in the rope from Pat pulling on it. I hope this clarifies any confusion.
 

What is a free body diagram?

A free body diagram is a visual representation of the forces acting on an object. It is used to analyze the motion of an object and determine the net force acting on it.

How do you create a free body diagram?

To create a free body diagram, you must first identify the object and all the forces acting on it. Then, draw a dot to represent the object and use arrows to represent the direction and magnitude of each force.

What is the purpose of a free body diagram?

The purpose of a free body diagram is to simplify the analysis of an object's motion and determine the net force acting on it. It allows for a visual representation of all the forces acting on an object, making it easier to understand and solve problems.

What are the key principles of a free body diagram?

The key principles of a free body diagram are that all forces acting on an object must be represented by arrows, the direction of the arrow represents the direction of the force, and the length of the arrow represents the magnitude of the force.

Can a free body diagram be used for objects at rest?

Yes, a free body diagram can be used for objects at rest. In this case, the forces acting on the object will be balanced, resulting in a net force of zero. This can be shown on the diagram by equal and opposite arrows canceling each other out.

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