An interesting notion about inflation.

In summary, the conversation discussed the concept of the universe's expansion and the implications of dividing by zero in mathematical models. It was concluded that while the rate of expansion at the Big Bang was infinite, this does not necessarily mean that the universe now must be infinite in size. This is demonstrated by examples of infinities in mathematics that can be dealt with and those that cause issues.
  • #1
zeromodz
246
0
I was thinking about how big the universe got after inflation occured. Then I thought about Hubble's parameter.

Ho = V / d (At the big bang, the distance between the two edges of the universe were zero)
Ho = V / 0
Ho = ∞ km*mpc / s

Therefore, the rate of the expansion must have been infinite once the universe started to expand. Wouldn't that mean the universe now must be infinite in size?
 
Astronomy news on Phys.org
  • #2
If the rate of expansion is infinite, then the universe became infinitely large in zero nanoseconds, and has become infinitely larger every zero nanoseconds since.

This is the problem when we try to divide by zero, which is why the current mathematical models can't take us to the first instant of the BB (or the center of a BlackHole).
 
  • #3
Infinities are generally regarded as mathematical artifacts - where theory, not reality, has broken down.
 
  • #4
zeromodz said:
Therefore, the rate of the expansion must have been infinite once the universe started to expand. Wouldn't that mean the universe now must be infinite in size?

No.

Take a piece of graph paper and draw a step function. The rate of expansion is infinite at the step, but the function is finite.

You see these sorts of infinities all the time, and there are a lot of mathematical tools for detailing with them. There are also infinities that "you can deal with" and infinities that really mess things up.
 
  • #5


I find this notion about inflation and the expansion of the universe to be very intriguing. The concept of Hubble's parameter, which describes the rate of expansion of the universe, is an important factor to consider in understanding the size of the universe.

Based on the equations you have presented, it does seem that the universe must have been infinite in size at the moment of the big bang, as the rate of expansion was infinite. However, it is important to note that this is a theoretical calculation and may not accurately reflect the true nature of the universe.

Inflation is a complex process that is still not fully understood, and there are many theories and models that try to explain it. It is possible that the universe did not start off as infinite in size, but rather underwent a rapid expansion that eventually slowed down. This would mean that the current size of the universe may not necessarily be infinite.

Additionally, there are other factors to consider such as the curvature of space-time, which can affect the size of the universe. The concept of infinity is also a difficult one to grasp, especially in relation to the vastness of the universe.

Overall, the idea that the universe may have started off as infinite in size due to inflation is certainly thought-provoking. However, further research and evidence are needed to fully understand the true size and nature of our universe.
 
  • #6


I find this notion about inflation and the size of the universe to be intriguing. The concept of Hubble's parameter, which relates the expansion rate of the universe to its size and distance, is a fundamental aspect of cosmology. It is true that at the time of the big bang, the distance between the two edges of the universe was zero, and therefore the value of Ho would be infinite. However, it is important to note that this calculation is based on the current understanding and measurements of the expansion rate. In reality, the expansion of the universe is not a linear process and has varied over time.

Additionally, the concept of infinity in relation to the size of the universe is a complex and debated topic in cosmology. While some theories suggest that the universe may be infinite in size, others propose that it may have a finite but unmeasurable size. Further research and advancements in technology will continue to shed light on this question.

It is also worth considering that the expansion of the universe is not the only factor that determines its overall size. The presence of dark matter and dark energy, which make up the majority of the universe, also play a significant role in its structure and size.

In conclusion, while the idea of an infinite expansion rate and an infinite universe is a fascinating concept, it is important to approach it with caution and continue to explore and gather evidence through scientific research. The true size and nature of the universe may continue to surprise and challenge us, and that is what makes the study of cosmology so exciting.
 

1. What is inflation?

Inflation is a general increase in the prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time. It is typically measured by the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and reflects the decrease in purchasing power of a currency.

2. What causes inflation?

There are several factors that can contribute to inflation, including an increase in the money supply, rising production costs, and increased consumer demand. Inflation can also be influenced by government policies, such as changes in interest rates and taxes.

3. How does inflation affect the economy?

Inflation can have both positive and negative effects on the economy. In the short term, it can stimulate economic growth by encouraging consumer spending and investment. However, high or unpredictable inflation can also lead to economic instability, as it can make it difficult for businesses to plan and can erode the value of savings and investments.

4. What is the relationship between inflation and wages?

Inflation can impact wages in different ways. In some cases, when prices rise, employers may increase wages to keep up with the cost of living. However, if wages do not keep pace with inflation, then workers may see a decrease in their purchasing power. In addition, high inflation can also lead to job losses and wage freezes as businesses try to control costs.

5. How is inflation measured and tracked?

Inflation is typically measured using the Consumer Price Index (CPI), which tracks the prices of a basket of goods and services commonly purchased by consumers. This index is calculated and reported by government agencies, such as the Bureau of Labor Statistics in the United States. In addition to the CPI, other measures of inflation include the Producer Price Index (PPI) and the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) deflator.

Similar threads

  • Astronomy and Astrophysics
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • Cosmology
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
37
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
6
Views
1K
Replies
80
Views
8K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
1K
Back
Top