Time Dilation & Contraction: Conflicting Clocks

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In summary: The ship leaves the station, and one of the mirror clocks is aligned with the motion (time is moving forward). The other mirror clock is orthogonal to the first, and does not experience length contraction. From the station, the observer sees that the orthogonal clock ticks slower than the clock aligned with the motion. This is because the light has to travel a longer distance to reach the orthogonal clock. The station observer also sees that the orthogonal clock is contracted in length. In summary, the observer on the ship sees that the two mirror clocks tick differently, and that the orthogonal clock is contracted in length.
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The ship leaves the station carrying two mirror clocks. One aligned with the motion. The other, orthogonal to the first. One suffers length contraction but the other does not. I suppose time dilation acts on both. So we have a contradiction here. What is happenning in fact?
 
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(a)What do you think the observer on the ship sees regarding her local clocks?

(b) Now try to write down [explain] excatly what you think is a 'contradication' and post it here.

(c) Hint: What is the 'contradiction here: Observers in relative motion each see the other's clock as ticking slower than their own.
 
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I forgot to say that the observer remains at the station.
 
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The one aligned orthogonal suffers no length contraction. But, from the station observer, light is following a zigzag path between the mirrors. Thus, the station observer sees the train clock 'tick' slower because of the longer light path. The longer light path is sqrt(L^2 + (vt)^2), L being distance between mirrors. This must equal distance light travels, so we have ct = sqrt(L^2 + (vt)^2) . Solving for t, we get tick of train clock as seen from station: (L/c)/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2).

Now, for horizontal clock, we have contracted length L' = L sqrt(1-(v/c)^2). Here the train clicks are asymmetric, seen from the station; the station observer sees the train observer treat the sum of the asymmetric clicks as two even clicks. For the station observer, for the click with light moving the same direction as the train, t0 = L'/(c-v); for the other click, t1 = L'/(c+v). If you work this out, you see that t0+t1 = 2(L/c)/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2), consistent with the clock rate for the orthogonal clock.
 
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The one aligned with the direction of motion (light goes forward and backward between the mirrors) will appear to the station observer that the light going forward will take longer to travel the distance, shorter time to travel the backwards distance. This distance is the same for both directions and contracted.

The other one will have equal travel times, both clocks will "tick" the same rate (meaning a round trip light bounce will be the same time for both), and both tick slower than the observer's clock at the station.

An observer on the ship will see both ship clocks act and tick identically, and will see the station observer's clock to be slow, and the station contracted.
 
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Thank you all. Things are clear now.
 

1. What is time dilation and time contraction?

Time dilation and time contraction are both concepts in the theory of relativity that describe how time is perceived by different observers in different situations. Time dilation refers to the phenomenon where the passage of time is perceived to be slower for objects that are moving at high speeds, while time contraction refers to the phenomenon where the length of time between two events is perceived to be shorter for observers who are moving at high speeds relative to each other.

2. How does time dilation occur?

Time dilation occurs because time is not a constant, fixed quantity. In fact, it is relative and can be affected by factors such as speed and gravity. According to Einstein's theory of relativity, as an object's speed increases, time will appear to pass more slowly for that object. This is because the faster an object moves, the more energy it has and the more it warps the fabric of space-time, causing time to slow down.

3. What is the difference between time dilation and time contraction?

The main difference between time dilation and time contraction is the perspective of the observers involved. Time dilation is observed by an outside observer looking at an object moving at high speeds, while time contraction is observed by the objects themselves. Time dilation and time contraction are also two sides of the same coin, with time dilation referring to the slowing down of time and time contraction referring to the shortening of time.

4. How does time dilation affect our daily lives?

Time dilation is only noticeable at extremely high speeds, such as those achieved by particles in accelerators or spacecraft traveling close to the speed of light. Therefore, time dilation does not have a significant impact on our daily lives. However, the concept of time dilation is crucial in understanding the behavior of particles at high speeds and in predicting the effects of gravity on time.

5. Can time dilation and time contraction be measured?

Yes, time dilation and time contraction have been observed and measured in various experiments and observations. For example, the famous Hafele-Keating experiment in 1971 used atomic clocks to demonstrate the effects of time dilation on objects in motion. Additionally, GPS satellites have to account for time dilation in order to provide accurate positioning and timing information on Earth.

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