Titration question on unkown pH

In summary, Borek said that there is no such thing as a negative pH, and that this number is too high.
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Homework Statement


24 ml of 1.5 M solution of unknown acid is titrated with 54 ml 2 M NaOH. The unknown acid is triprotic. If the unknown acid is strong, what is the pH of this acid before titration


Homework Equations



Mvn= Mvn to find that it was tri-protic.

The Attempt at a Solution


literally no idea where to begin
 
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What does it mean for an acid to be "strong"?
 
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that it dissociates completely in solution
 
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OK, how many moles of acid do you have?
 
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.036 moles
 
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And so how many moles of protons, when it dissociates?
 
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i don't know... do you?
 
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What does triprotic mean?
 
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that the formula is H3___ (3 being a subscript) so its got 3 hydrogen
 
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OK, so if there are 0.036 moles of acid, how many hydrogens?
 
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.012 or .108??
 
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If a cake needs 3 eggs, and I have 4 cakes, how many eggs do I need?
 
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12? so .012?
 
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How did you get 12 to my question?

Consider that you have 0.036 cakes, each containing 3 eggs...
 
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so .108 i did .012 because i thought you were saying 12 egga for 4 cakes
 
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ah, sorry, probably a bad choice of numbers on my part then :)

OK, 0.108 moles of protons. Can you define pH in terms of concentration?
 
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ya - [log concentration]
 
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And what is the concentration? (given that you know number of moles and volume)
 
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1.38, but that's too high the negative log of that is negative itself
 
  • #20
How have you got 1.38? Also, negative pH is not a problem either.
 
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borek said moles over volume. Therefore with .108 moles over the volume of .024L i was wrong with 1.38 because i added the volume of the NaOH as well but this number is still to high too.
 
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Why do you think it's too high?
 
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cause you get a negative pH
 
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And that's a problem because?
 
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there is no such thing as a negative pH...
 
  • #27
i have the sme question! nice post
 

1. What is titration?

Titration is a laboratory technique used to determine the concentration of an unknown solution by reacting it with a known solution of a specific concentration.

2. How does titration work?

In titration, a known volume of the unknown solution is placed in a flask and then a solution of known concentration, called the titrant, is slowly added to it until the reaction is complete. The volume of the titrant required to complete the reaction is used to calculate the concentration of the unknown solution.

3. What is the purpose of a titration?

The purpose of a titration is to determine the concentration of an unknown solution. It is commonly used in chemistry experiments and in quality control processes to ensure the accuracy of solutions.

4. How do you calculate the concentration of the unknown solution in a titration?

To calculate the concentration of the unknown solution, you need to know the volume and concentration of the titrant, as well as the volume of the unknown solution used in the titration. Using this information, you can use the formula M1V1 = M2V2, where M1 is the concentration of the titrant, V1 is the volume of the titrant used, M2 is the concentration of the unknown solution, and V2 is the volume of the unknown solution used.

5. What is the endpoint in a titration?

The endpoint in a titration is the point at which the reaction between the unknown solution and the titrant is complete. This is typically indicated by a color change, known as the endpoint indicator, or by using an instrument such as a pH meter to detect a change in pH. The endpoint is used to determine the volume of the titrant needed to complete the reaction, which is then used to calculate the concentration of the unknown solution.

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