Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire

In summary, the conversation discusses the application of Ampere's circuital law and Biot-Savart's law to determine the magnetic field of a finite length wire. It is noted that using Ampere's law can lead to incorrect results, while Biot-Savart's law can only be applied to steady currents. However, it is possible to calculate the contribution of a finite straight wire to the magnetic field using Biot-Savart's law, and then multiply it by four for a complete loop. The concept of a closed loop and its relation to steady currents is also discussed.
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s.gautam
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When we apply ampere's circuital law to finite length wire,we get the wrong answer.Why is that? The symmetry rule is being followed,so that's not the problem.
Is it because a finite length wire means that charge is piling up somewhere which means that the current is not steady?
 
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Thanks a lot,that was really helpful.
 
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s.gautam said:
Thanks a lot,that was really helpful.
Pleasure :biggrin: Welcome to the forums!
 
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Hey another thought occurred to me,how can we apply biot-savart's law to determine the magnetic field of a finite length wire? Biot-savart's law is also valid for only steady currents.
 
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I guess I should post it in a new thread.
 
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s.gautam said:
Hey another thought occurred to me,how can we apply biot-savart's law to determine the magnetic field of a finite length wire? Biot-savart's law is also valid for only steady currents.

A wire of finite length can have a steady current, same as a wire of infinite length. Indeed this is precisely the case in any DC circuit.
 
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Yes,it can,but not until its in a closed loop.With biot-savart law,we find out the field of a finite segment of wire which is not a closed loop,and this is what's troubling me.
 
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You're right, it does need to be in a closed loop, but what we can do when we calculate it, is calculate the contribution to the magnetic field of the finite straight wire. It is still left to calculate the field of the rest of the loop. If you're working out of griffith's 2nd ed. See for example Problem 5.37, where you calculate the contribution from one side of the square then multiply it by four.
 

1. What is Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire?

Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire is a mathematical equation that relates the magnetic field around a closed loop to the electric current passing through the loop and the distance from the wire. It states that the line integral of the magnetic field around a closed loop is equal to the product of the current passing through the loop and the distance from the wire.

2. How is Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire different from the infinite wire version?

The infinite wire version of Ampere's circuital law assumes that the wire has infinite length, whereas the finite length wire version takes into account the distance from the wire. This means that the magnetic field will decrease as the distance from the wire increases in the finite length wire version, while it remains constant in the infinite wire version.

3. What is the significance of using Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire?

Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire is significant because it allows us to calculate the magnetic field around a wire with a finite length, which is a more realistic scenario than an infinite wire. This law is also important in understanding the behavior of magnetic fields in circuits and electromagnetic devices.

4. Can Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire be used for any shape of wire?

Yes, Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire can be applied to any shape of wire as long as the wire is closed and the current passing through it is known. This law is not limited to only straight wires, but can also be applied to curved or irregularly shaped wires.

5. How is Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire derived?

Ampere's circuital law on finite length wire is derived from the Maxwell-Ampere equation, which is one of the four Maxwell's equations. It is based on the principle of conservation of charge and the relationship between electric currents and magnetic fields known as Biot-Savart's law. By combining these principles and equations, the finite length wire version of Ampere's circuital law can be derived.

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