The Impossible Task of Solving a 2nd Order DE for r(t)

In summary, it is possible to solve for the distance from the Earth at a given time using the given information and the second order differential equation.
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Suppose an object is moving toward the Earth(with a direction perpendicular to the Earth's surface) at an initial speed v0, starting from a distance r0. The object also experiences gravitational acceleration. Is it possible to obtain an expression of r as a function of t? In other words, what's the distance from the Earth at a time t?

I tried solving this second order differential equation:
d2r/dt2 = GM/r2

I ended up with a mess of stuff. And it seems impossible to make r the subject of the equation.
 
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The answer is yes, it is possible to obtain an expression of r as a function of t. To do this, you can solve the differential equation d2r/dt2 = GM/r2 with the initial conditions r(0) = r0 and v(0) = v0, where G is the gravitational constant and M is the mass of the Earth. The solution is given by r(t) = (GM/v02) + r0cos(v0t/r0) - [(GM/v02) + r0]cos(v0√(2GM/r0)/v0t).
 
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Unfortunately, it is not possible to obtain an explicit expression for r(t) in this scenario. This is because the equation is a second order differential equation, which means it contains a second derivative of r with respect to t. This makes the equation more complicated and difficult to solve for r as a function of t.

Additionally, the equation contains the gravitational constant G, the object's initial speed v0, and the object's initial distance from Earth r0. These variables cannot be eliminated from the equation, making it impossible to obtain a simple expression for r(t).

However, it is still possible to obtain a numerical solution for r(t) by using numerical methods such as Euler's method or Runge-Kutta method. These methods involve breaking down the equation into smaller steps and using iterative calculations to approximate the value of r at different time intervals. This will give an approximate value for r at different points in time, but it will not provide a simple expression for r(t).

In conclusion, while it is not possible to obtain an explicit expression for r(t) in this scenario, numerical methods can still be used to approximate its value at different points in time.
 

1. What is a 2nd order differential equation (DE)?

A 2nd order differential equation is a mathematical equation that involves the second derivative of a function. It is commonly used to model real-world phenomena, such as motion or heat transfer.

2. What makes solving a 2nd order DE for r(t) difficult?

Solving a 2nd order DE for r(t) is difficult because it requires finding a function that satisfies the equation, which may involve multiple variables and complex mathematical operations. Additionally, there may not be a closed-form solution available, making it necessary to use numerical methods or approximations.

3. What are some common methods for solving 2nd order DEs?

Some common methods for solving 2nd order DEs include separation of variables, substitution, and using power series. Other techniques such as Laplace transforms and numerical methods like Euler's method can also be used.

4. Can all 2nd order DEs be solved analytically?

No, not all 2nd order DEs can be solved analytically. Some equations may not have a closed-form solution, while others may require advanced mathematical techniques that are not always feasible. In these cases, numerical methods can be used to approximate a solution.

5. What are some applications of 2nd order DEs in science and engineering?

2nd order DEs are used in many fields of science and engineering, such as physics, biology, and electrical engineering. They can be used to model a variety of physical phenomena, including motion, oscillations, and heat transfer. They are also used in control systems and signal processing.

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