Thermodynamics-heating water in piston help

In summary, the system begins with water at 105 C, 85% quality and a volume of 1L. As it is heated, the volume increases to 1.5L and the piston encounters a linear spring with a constant of 100 N/mm. To find the cylinder temperature when the pressure reaches 200 kPa, the force on the spring and the displacement of the spring are calculated. Then, using the saturation tables, the state of the water/vapor mix at 1.5L is found to be above the saturated vapor and therefore in a gas state. Following a line of constant entropy, the final state at the specified pressure can be found.
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Homework Statement


A cylinder/piston arrangement contains water at 105 C, 85% quality with a volume of 1L.
The system is heated, causing the piston to rise and encounter a linear spring. At this
point, the volume is 1.5 L, piston diameter is 150 mm, and spring constant is 100 N/mm.
The heating continues, so the piston compresses the spring. What is the cylinder
temperature when the pressure reaches 200 kPa.


Homework Equations


F/A=pressure
F=K*d


The Attempt at a Solution


From what I stated with. I solved for the Force on the spring.
F/(pi/4)(.150^2)mm=200,000 Pa
F=3534.29N

Then I found out the displacement of the spring.
3534.39=100*d
d=35.3439mm

That is where I am stuck at. What I tough might work is to find the volume after the spring is compressed. That is just over 1.5L and comparing that to the saturation tables it is above the saturated vapor. So it would be a gas. But I don't think that is correct. If anyone can help straighten me out and point me in the right direction. Thanks.
 
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The expansion from 1 L to 1.5 L is done at constant pressure with heat input. So the final state (ie: quality) of the water/water vapor, can be found from the tables. Do you know how to do that?

Once the water/vapor mix begins pushing against the piston, it is doing work and follows a line of constant entropy. If you can find the state at 1.5L above, then you can find the entropy at that state from the tables. Follow the line of constant entropy up to the pressure specified to find the final state.
 
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Based on the given information, it seems that the system is undergoing a phase change from liquid to gas as the volume increases and the quality decreases. In order to determine the temperature at which the pressure reaches 200 kPa, we need to use the ideal gas law, which relates pressure, volume, temperature, and number of moles of gas.

First, we need to calculate the number of moles of water present in the system at 105 C and 85% quality. Using the ideal gas law, we can find the number of moles of water in 1L of the system:

P1V1 = nRT
n = (P1V1)/(RT)
n = (200,000 Pa)(0.001 m^3)/(8.314 J/molK)(378.15 K)
n = 0.0635 moles

Since the quality is given as 85%, we can calculate the amount of liquid and vapor present in the system:

n_liquid = (0.0635)(0.85) = 0.054 moles
n_vapor = (0.0635)(0.15) = 0.0095 moles

Next, we need to determine the volume at which the pressure reaches 200 kPa. Using the ideal gas law again, we can solve for the volume at this pressure:

P2V2 = nRT
V2 = (nRT)/P2
V2 = [(0.054 moles)(8.314 J/molK)(378.15 K)]/(200,000 Pa)
V2 = 0.000999 m^3

Thus, we can see that the volume at 200 kPa is very close to the initial volume of 1L. This indicates that the system is still mostly in liquid form, but with a small amount of vapor present. To find the temperature at which this occurs, we can use the saturation tables to find the temperature corresponding to a pressure of 200 kPa and a quality of 5%. This can be done by interpolation or by using a table of values.

Using this method, we can find that the temperature at which the pressure reaches 200 kPa is approximately 111.5 C. This makes sense, as the system is still mostly liquid but with some vapor present, resulting in a slightly higher temperature compared to the initial temperature of 105 C.

In conclusion
 

1. How does heating water in a piston work?

When a piston is filled with water and heated, the molecules in the water gain energy and start to move faster. This increased movement causes the water molecules to push against the walls of the piston, generating pressure. As the temperature continues to rise, the pressure also increases, leading to an expansion of the water and further movement of the piston.

2. What is the relationship between temperature and pressure in thermodynamics?

In thermodynamics, the relationship between temperature and pressure is described by the ideal gas law. It states that as the temperature of a gas increases, the pressure also increases, assuming the volume and number of molecules remain constant. This is due to the fact that higher temperatures cause the molecules to move faster and collide more frequently with the walls of the container, resulting in increased pressure.

3. Why is a piston commonly used in experiments involving heating water?

A piston is often used in experiments involving heating water because it allows for precise control of the pressure and volume of the system. As the temperature of the water increases, the piston can be adjusted to maintain a constant pressure, making it easier to study the effects of temperature on the water. Additionally, the piston provides a closed system, preventing any external factors from influencing the experiment.

4. How does heat transfer occur in a piston filled with water?

Heat transfer in a piston filled with water occurs through conduction. As the walls of the piston are heated, they transfer thermal energy to the water molecules in direct contact with them. These molecules then transfer the energy to adjacent molecules, and so on, resulting in the overall heating of the water.

5. What is the purpose of studying thermodynamics and heating water in a piston?

Studying thermodynamics and heating water in a piston can provide valuable insights and understanding of how heat and energy transfer work in different systems. This knowledge is essential in various fields, from engineering and chemistry to environmental science and climate change research. It can also help in the development of more efficient heating systems and technologies.

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