Exploring Color Theory: Prime Colors as a Basis?

In summary: It seems like RGB is the most natural basis for colors.In summary, the conversation discusses the idea of using prime colors as a basis for a space of colors. It is mentioned that prime colors cannot be created by combining other colors and that composite colors are combinations of prime colors. The concept of color space and color triangle is mentioned, as well as the use of cyan, magenta, and yellow as subtractive primaries in printing. It is also noted that RGB is not the only basis for color space and that there are an infinite number of possible bases. The conversation concludes with the realization that RGB is a natural basis for colors due to the sensitivity of the human eye's cones.
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Since prime colors cannot be created by any combination of any other colors, and since composite colors are combinations of the prime colors by definition, does this mean that the prime colors could form a basis for a space of colors? If you split up a color into components, like real vectors, then you can express composite colors as combinations of the prime colors. Does this idea make any sense? Because I found that it correctly predicted the resulting colors when I combined colors in a spectroscopy lab.
 
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Yes, take a look at Gamut, 'color space' and 'color triangle' eg on wiki.
 
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Very very odd and interesting. Seems that Yellow, Magenta and plain blue can also be a basis, as

Cyan=Red+Green
Magenta=Green+Blue
Blue=Blue

Now, if these are expressed in matrix form, as

(1,1,0)
(0,1,1)
(0,0,1)

Then they are in echelon form (and expressed in terms of basis vectors), and so they are linearly independent. This makes me asky why some printers use Cyan Yellow and Magenta instead of Red Green Blue?
 
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You can pick any three colors and define a color space - there is nothing particulalry special about RGB except that it roughly matches your eye's response.
The reason for printers using CMY is that printing involves reflected light, if you view a picture in white light then eg. cyan and megenta together will absorb all wavelengths except blue - giving you a blue area.
 
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It would help if you would explain what you mean by "prime color" and "composite color". Basically, because the human eye has three different kinds of "cones" that primarily distinguish three different kinds of color, colors seen by the human eye can be thought of as a three dimensional vector space. Of course, there are an infinite number of different bases for a three dimemsional space. That has nothing to do with the usual concepts of "prime" or "composite" numbers.
 
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There are many sets of primary colours. Two of the most common ones are:
red, green, blue - the additive primaries of light
With all three set to zero, you get black; all three at max you get white.

cyan, magenta, yellow - the subtractive primaries of pigments
With all three set to zero, you get white*; all three at max you get black**.

*the colour of the background
** pigments are not perfect, so a true black can't be printed. This is why print primaries add a black: i.e.: CMYK. In fact, the entire colour space of printing is much smaller than the colour space of RGB. There's a whole science and industry to cramming the ideal RGB into the realistic of CMYK.

And, as others have pointed out, it is no coincidence that RGB are the three colours associated with human eyesight.


Wait, you know all this... I've come late to the table...
 
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Yes, now I realize that RGB is not the only basis for color space, and of course three dimensional vector space has infinite number of different bases, however, for example, it would be quite thoughtless to choose {34(x^2)+23x+5,87x+54,798} as a basis for the space of polynomials of degree 2, although it is a linearly independent set and spans the space. It makes sense that we would choose a basis that our eyes are sensitive to such as RGB or CYM. Primary colors is a very misleading definition though, as when taught in primary school, it is said in such a way that implies RGB are the only primary colors, I guess that is where my thinking got off track. Thank you all for your responses, I have learned quite a bit here.

Edit: I just researched the cones of the eye, apparently their sensitivity peaks at roughly RGB, this makes sense now.
 
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1. What are prime colors?

Prime colors are the three colors that are considered to be the basis of all other colors. They cannot be created by mixing other colors together and are used to create all other colors in the color spectrum.

2. What are the primary colors?

The primary colors are red, blue, and yellow. These colors are considered to be the main colors in the color spectrum and are used as the basis for creating all other colors.

3. Can other colors be created by mixing prime colors?

Yes, all other colors can be created by mixing different amounts of the three prime colors (red, blue, and yellow). For example, mixing red and blue can create purple, while mixing yellow and blue can create green.

4. What is the difference between primary colors and secondary colors?

Primary colors are the three main colors in the color spectrum (red, blue, and yellow) that cannot be created by mixing other colors together. Secondary colors, on the other hand, are created by mixing two primary colors together. The secondary colors are purple (red + blue), green (yellow + blue), and orange (red + yellow).

5. How is understanding prime colors important in color theory?

Understanding prime colors is important in color theory because it allows us to understand how colors interact with each other and how they can be mixed to create new colors. It also helps us to understand the properties of colors, such as hue, saturation, and brightness, and how they can be used in art, design, and other fields.

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