Ion beam in E and B field problem

In summary, the conversation discusses the behavior of a beam of ions in a region where the electric field and magnetic flux density are perpendicular to each other and to the ions' velocity. The question is whether the ions will be deflected, and the group discusses using the Lorentz force equation to find the answer. After some suggestions and considerations, it is concluded that the ions will pass through the region undeflected if the force due to the electric field and the motion through the magnetic field are equal and opposite. The general form of the Lorentz force law is recommended to be used, and after some calculations, it is found that the force on each ion is zero.
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Homework Statement



A beam of ions enters a region in which the electric field E and magnetic flux density B are normal to each other and both normal to the velocity of the ions. Show that if the velocity of the ions is related to the fields by

v=ExB/B2

then the ions pass through the region undeflected.


Homework Equations



Thinking of using

F=qvxB

but not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution



Substituting v from info into Lornetz force equation but it doesn't seem to answer the question.
 
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so for the ions to pass through unaffected, the force due to the elctric field & the motion through the magnetic must be equal & opposite (ie exactly cancel)
 
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So would it be more accurate to use

qE=qvxB

and then substitute in the v equation?
 
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sounds like a reasonable idea to me, give it a try

couple of pointers though, just be careful with your signs as the forces neecd to cancel out

now you could expand a vector triple product or make use of the orthoganalilty of the vectors in teh question & look at the magnitudes...
 
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HPRF said:
So would it be more accurate to use

qE=qvxB

and then substitute in the v equation?

If I were you, I would use the general form of the Lorentz force law [itex]\textbf{F}=q(\textbf{E}+\textbf{v}\times\textbf{B})[/itex], and plug in the velocity you are given...after using some vector triple product identities, you should find that the force on each ion [itex]\textbf{F}[/itex] is zero.
 

1. What is an ion beam in E and B fields?

An ion beam in E and B fields refers to the movement of charged particles, or ions, in the presence of both electric and magnetic fields. These fields can either accelerate or deflect the ions, depending on their charge and direction of motion. This phenomenon is important in many areas of science and technology, including particle accelerators and plasma physics.

2. How are E and B fields related in an ion beam?

In an ion beam, the electric and magnetic fields are related through the Lorentz force law. This law states that the force on a charged particle in an electric field is equal to the product of its charge and the electric field strength, while the force in a magnetic field is equal to the product of its charge, velocity, and the strength of the magnetic field. The combined effect of these forces determines the path of the ion in the beam.

3. What factors affect the motion of ions in an E and B field?

The motion of ions in an E and B field is affected by several factors, including the strength and direction of the fields, the charge and mass of the ions, and their initial velocity. Additionally, the shape and orientation of the electrodes or magnets producing the fields can also impact the ion's trajectory.

4. How can the behavior of ions in an E and B field be controlled?

The behavior of ions in an E and B field can be controlled through various means, such as adjusting the strength or direction of the fields, changing the ion's charge or mass, or altering its initial velocity. Additionally, the use of focusing mechanisms, such as electric lenses or magnetic quadrupoles, can also help to control the motion of ions in a beam.

5. What are some practical applications of ion beams in E and B fields?

Ion beams in E and B fields have numerous practical applications, including in medical treatments such as radiation therapy, in materials analysis and modification techniques, and in propulsion systems for spacecraft. They are also used extensively in research in fields such as nuclear physics, astrophysics, and plasma physics.

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