Am I the only one that finds this funny?

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In summary, The conversation discusses whether a statement should be considered a corollary and if the concept of dependence applies to all subsets of a vector space. The possibility of a corollary about dependence is considered, but ultimately it is agreed that it is not necessary to prove this result from first principles.
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Is this really worthy of being pointed out as a corollary??
 

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Oops. It's just the contrapositive. Then no, it's not worthy of being a corollary.
 
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If it follows from the theorem 1.6 then why not? :) Not really funny to me.
 
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phosgene said:
Yes. Not all theorems work both ways like that.

Are you sure? :wink:
 
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1MileCrash said:
Are you sure? :wink:

I misread it, thought that the corollary was about dependence too. :redface:
 
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phosgene said:
I misread it, thought that the corollary was about dependence too. :redface:

Hah, I don't blame you. I had to do a double (or triple) take.

Though, interestingly enough, if the corollary was about dependence, then that would mean (S1 dependent) <=> (S2 dependent), which would mean that any subset or superset of any linearly dependent set would be linearly dependent. Which would mean that all subsets of a vector space would be linearly dependent, because all vector spaces must contain some linearly dependent subset (namely itself) (unless I'm just confusing myself here!)
 
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That's true, but not for the reason that you seem to be thinking. Every vector space contains 0, and therefore is a linearly dependent set, but if you remove that point you could have a linearly independent set. For example (and probably the only example), F2 the field of two elements, as a one dimensional vector space over itself.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
That's true, but not for the reason that you seem to be thinking. Every vector space contains 0, and therefore is a linearly dependent set, but if you remove that point you could have a linearly independent set. For example (and probably the only example), F2 the field of two elements, as a one dimensional vector space over itself.

I'm saying - if the corollary was talking about dependence, a consequence would be that any subset of a vector space is linearly dependent because the vector space itself is.
 
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I think it's not just to "point it out", but ask you to prove both results from first principles, to get used to making proofs about linear dependence and independence.
 
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1MileCrash said:
Is this really worthy of being pointed out as a corollary??

Wait. Why? Because there's two extra commas in there?
 

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