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| Nov21-12, 04:11 PM | #1 |
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Using a shunt resistor for measuring current
I was using a signal generator to perform some tests. The circuit was simply the generator in series with a 1 ohm shunt resistor.
Even though I was working with high frequencies (1 to 20 MHz), shouldn't the voltage drop across the resistor be the generator amplitude itself? I was using the maximum voltage (10 Vp), but the voltage across the resistor was around 1 V or so. I measured its resistance and it was really 1 ohm. |
| Nov21-12, 04:55 PM | #2 |
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Instead, drive a 50 Ohm load witih your 1 Ohm shunt resistor in series (on the low side, connected to the ground of the signal generator. You should then get more reasonable voltages and currents. |
| Nov21-12, 04:56 PM | #3 |
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Or better yet, drive a 49 Ohm load resistor in series with the 1 Ohm shunt resistor. That will match the 50 Ohm output impedance of your sig gen.
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| Nov21-12, 05:15 PM | #4 |
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Using a shunt resistor for measuring current
Thanks berkeman!
Does this internal impedance varies with frequency? I am asking this because i was getting voltage outputs between 0,8~1,3 V depending on the frequency. Oh, another thing... the resistor is a wirewound type. For that range of frequency, is the reactance considerably large compared to the resistance? Which do you think was the main reason for that varying output voltage? I want to know it because if it was mainly caused by the impedance of the generator (implying that it varies with frequency), I can use the values of output voltage as current values. |
| Nov21-12, 05:27 PM | #5 |
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The wirewould nature of the 1 Ohm resistor probably accounts for the increase in voltage across it with frequency. I wouldn't use a wirewound resistor in a setup that spans your frequency range. Can you find another type of resistor to use? |
| Nov23-12, 11:14 AM | #6 |
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Hello F.ono - I am agreeing with the feedback you have received. I just wanted to point out that the 10V Sig Gen and 1 Ohm load ...... 10Amps - I am sure well beyond the rating of your signal gen - that is why it seems non-linear in that range ( 1 Ohm).
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| Nov23-12, 03:39 PM | #7 |
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Signal generators try hard to have a very precise resistive 50 ohm output impedance, to minimize parasitic reflections.
The wirewound resistor doesn't fit here. Even a metal layer resistor gets inductive at HF if it's resistance is as low as 1 ohm. A leaded 1/4 W resistor has about 5 nH inductance and 0.2 pF capacitance (including the effect of its size) so below 150 ohm it gets first inductive and above it gets capacitive. Even with a metal layer, 1 ohm 1/4W leaded would be essentially inductive above 32 MHz hence not purely resistive at 20 MHz. Low or high resistances are essentially avoided in HF; when necessary, put several parts in parallel (or series); Smd are better. This holds for impedances in general, which designers try hard to keep around 30-200 ohm unless the circuit is tuned and narrowband; low impedance resulting from the transistor's limited breakdown voltage makes power amplifiers difficult. |
| Nov28-12, 08:08 PM | #8 |
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Thank you all and sorry for taking so long to reply.
I used a metal layer resistor and it worked much better. |
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