Exploring Energy Transfers in a Boulder-Pushing System

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of energy transfer in the scenario of a person attempting to move a boulder by pushing it. It is explained that although no work is done due to static friction, the person feels tired, indicating an energy transfer. The equation Wp - Wf = Wnet is used to represent this transfer, with the conclusion that the energy is not mechanical and is instead converted to heat through biochemical processes in the body. It is also mentioned that the source of this energy is from food intake.
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Gear300
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I sort of need help conceptualizing how this energy system would work.

There is a boulder on the ground and a person is attempting to move it by pushing it. However, because of the static friction, the boulder does not move and ultimately, no work is done. However, there must have been some energy transfer since after some time, the person feels tired. If the energy transfer were written as:
Wp - Wf = Wnet (Wp - work done by person, Wf, work done by static friction, and Wnet - net work), then it could be stated as 0 - 0 = 0. I'm assuming this implies that the energy transfer was not mechanical. The problem here is that, if the person doesn't move the boulder, then there is no work done, and since static friction doesn't accelerate the boulder, no work is done by that either. So then, what was the energy transfer going on here? And also, does static friction influence energy systems (does it process energy into heat, etc...?).
 
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You have to be carefull with the physics notion of work and human work.
If you didn't move anything then friction did no work, you could have transferred energy into compressing the boulder, the soles of you shoes and the ground. This would have been converted into heat when you stopped pushing.
 
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This is where you get into biochemical stuff. When you exert yourself physically, your muscles are flexed. It takes energy to do this, even if you don't move the rock anywhere. Now think: where must that energy come from?
 
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I see...so the energy goes into deforming the rock and shoes, flexing the muscles, and so forth. This energy is then converted to heat. The source of this energy should be biochemical or energy that the person pushing originally retained.
 
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Gear300 said:
This energy is then converted to heat. The source of this energy should be biochemical or energy that the person pushing originally retained.

Right--From food. So eat your vegetables!
 

1. How does energy transfer occur in a boulder-pushing system?

In a boulder-pushing system, energy transfer occurs through a combination of potential and kinetic energy. When the boulder is stationary, it has potential energy due to its position on top of a hill. As it is pushed, this potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, which is the energy of motion. The boulder then transfers this kinetic energy to the other boulders in the system as they collide, creating a chain reaction of energy transfer.

2. What factors affect the efficiency of energy transfer in a boulder-pushing system?

The efficiency of energy transfer in a boulder-pushing system can be affected by several factors. These include the angle of the slope, the mass and composition of the boulders, and the surface conditions of the slope (e.g. friction). The presence of obstacles or other external forces can also impact the efficiency of energy transfer.

3. Can energy be lost during the boulder-pushing process?

Yes, energy can be lost during the boulder-pushing process. This is due to factors such as friction, which can convert some of the kinetic energy into heat, and collisions between boulders, which can result in energy being transferred to the surrounding environment. However, in an ideal system with no external forces, the total amount of energy remains constant.

4. How does the speed of boulder-pushing affect energy transfer?

The speed of boulder-pushing can greatly impact energy transfer in a system. Generally, a faster push will result in a higher transfer of energy, as the boulder will have more kinetic energy to transfer to the other boulders. However, if the push is too fast and uncontrolled, it can lead to energy being lost due to collisions and other factors, resulting in a less efficient transfer of energy.

5. How can the study of energy transfer in a boulder-pushing system be applied in real-world scenarios?

The study of energy transfer in a boulder-pushing system has real-world applications in fields such as engineering and physics. By understanding how energy is transferred and lost in a system, scientists can design more efficient machines and structures. It can also help in predicting and mitigating potential hazards, such as landslides or avalanches, which involve large-scale energy transfers between boulders and other materials.

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