Problem involving set and relations

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving relations on a set A and the proof that if one relation is a subset of another, then the nth power of the first relation is also a subset of the nth power of the second relation. The conversation also includes an attempt at a solution using proof by induction, with a base case and an inductive step. The conversation concludes with a request for help and hints on completing the proof.
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nistaria
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First this is my first attempt at using latex to ask a question, so my appologies if the statements come out strange. I'll edit as needed.

Homework Statement


Let R and S be relations on a set A. Prove that if [tex]R \subseteq S, then R^{n} \subseteq S^{n} for all n \geq 1[/tex]


Homework Equations


n/a


The Attempt at a Solution


I used proof by induction.

Base case:
Let [tex] n=1 [/tex] then[tex] R \subseteq S[/tex], then[tex] R^{n} \subseteq S^{n} =R^{1} \subseteq S^{1}[/tex] which is equal to [tex]R \subseteq S [/tex]which is true.

Inductive step:
Suppose that [tex]R^{k} \subseteq S^{k} [/tex]for[tex] n=k [/tex]and [/tex]k \geq 1[\tex]
We need to show that [tex]R^{k+1} \subseteq S^{k+1} [/tex]is true as well.
[tex] R^{k+1} \subseteq S^{k+1} = R \circ R^{k} \subseteq S \circ S^{k}[/tex]

ok, so here goes. I'm lost at this point. I know that for instance, if (a,b) are elements of Rn then it must be the case that (a,b) are elements of Sn

Any help, prefferably hints as I'd rather learn then get complete solutions handed to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reading
 
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hi nistaria! :smile:

your induction proof needs to begin "if (a,b) ε Rn+1, then there is a c such that …" :wink:
 

1. What is a set?

A set is a collection of distinct objects or elements. It can be represented by listing its elements inside curly braces, such as {1, 2, 3}. Sets are often used in mathematics to represent and analyze relationships between different objects.

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