Electron Proton Scattering vs Tunneling

In summary, the conversation discusses the behavior of electrons when they intersect with a beam of protons or a fixed proton target. The question is whether the electrons will tunnel through the protons or if there will be an absence of electrons on the backside of the protons. The conversation also mentions a previous experiment with electrons on gold nuclei, which led to the discovery of atomic nuclei. The fraction of electrons that reflect off thin gold films is around 1% to 10%, while the fraction that tunnel through is too small to measure. The conversation ends with the hope of finding help with the question of whether electrons can tunnel through the nucleus of an atom.
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When a beam of electrons (near relativistic or non-rel.) intersects with a beam of protons or a "fixed" proton target, what percentage of the electrons tunnel through the proton(s) or is there an absence of electrons on the exact opposite side (the backside) of the proton?

This question is a rate of scatter vs rate of tunneling question?
 
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Electrons incident on fixed protons : this seems similar to Rutherford's (?) experiment with a gold film (electrons on Au nuclei). I may not be answering your specific question (never did proton beams), but I can say that the considerable fraction of e- that reflected of thin gold films led to the discovery of atomic nuclei (early late 1800's or early 1900's). A very common experiment in school. The fraction reflecting must be around 1% to 10% if I remember correctly. The fraction tunneling is not measurable in this classic experiment, but must be unbelievably small in reality.
 
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Thanks for the feedback.

I checked McDaniel's book on Atomic Collisions, but did not find electron scattering from protons. This question is aimed at resolving whether or not electrons can or can not tunnel through the nucleus of an atom. Admittedly an electron in an orbit may be different in structure and energy than a free electron, but I really do hope to get some help with this question.
 

1. What is the difference between electron-proton scattering and tunneling?

Electron-proton scattering and tunneling are two different physical processes that involve the interaction between electrons and protons. In electron-proton scattering, an electron collides with a proton and transfers energy and momentum to it, resulting in the deflection of the proton's path. In contrast, tunneling refers to the phenomenon where an electron can pass through a potential barrier, even if it does not have enough energy to overcome that barrier.

2. What are the applications of electron-proton scattering and tunneling?

Electron-proton scattering has various applications in nuclear and particle physics research, such as studying the structure of atomic nuclei and the properties of subatomic particles. Tunneling, on the other hand, has applications in electronics, such as in tunneling diodes and transistors, and in microscopy techniques like scanning tunneling microscopy.

3. How does the energy of the electron affect electron-proton scattering and tunneling?

The energy of the electron is a crucial factor in both electron-proton scattering and tunneling. In scattering, the higher the energy of the electron, the more significant the deflection of the proton's path will be. In tunneling, the energy of the electron must be high enough to overcome the potential barrier and pass through it.

4. How do electron-proton scattering and tunneling differ in terms of distance?

Electron-proton scattering occurs at relatively short distances, typically within the atomic nucleus. In contrast, tunneling can occur over much larger distances, such as in electronic devices where electrons can tunnel through nanoscale barriers.

5. Can electron-proton scattering and tunneling occur simultaneously?

Yes, electron-proton scattering and tunneling can occur simultaneously in some cases. For example, in quantum tunneling, an electron can scatter off a proton while also tunneling through a potential barrier. However, the two processes are fundamentally different and should not be confused with each other.

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