Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem

In summary, the conversation discusses the interchangeability of numerators and denominators in mathematical identities, specifically in Bloch's Theorem. The last equality is a result of the chain rule and it is more accurate to talk about partial derivatives rather than full derivatives when there are hidden relations between variables.
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When you study physics, you never really delve into the reasons behind some of mathematical identities, i was curious about this one as it occurs in Bloch's Theorem (correct me if I go wrong):

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{dE}{dk})=\frac{d^{2}E}{dtdk}=\frac{d^{2}E}{dkdt}=(\frac{d^{2}E}{dk^{2}})\frac{dk}{dt}[/tex]

I checked this and the first and last part are equivalent.

Does that mean you can interchange the numerators and denominators freely? (given that the derivative is an operator)
 
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Yes, and the last equality comes from the chain rule.

Actually it's more accurate when we are talking about partial derivatives, since if you k & t has hidden relations between them, the full derivatives want necessarily commute. (But that depends on the nature of the problem, and sometimes this difference between partial and full derivatives is confusing)
 

1. What is the Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem?

The Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem is a mathematical identity that relates the derivative of a function to its Fourier coefficients. It is used to evaluate the derivative of a periodic function in terms of its Fourier series.

2. What is Bloch's Theorem?

Bloch's Theorem is a fundamental theorem in the theory of periodic functions. It states that the solutions to a differential equation with periodic coefficients can be written as a linear combination of solutions with the same period. This theorem is widely used in physics and engineering to study periodic systems.

3. What is the significance of Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem?

The Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem is significant because it allows us to determine the derivative of a periodic function using its Fourier series. This makes it easier to solve differential equations with periodic coefficients and to analyze the behavior of periodic systems.

4. How is Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem applied in real-world problems?

The Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem has many applications in physics and engineering. For example, it is used to study the flow of electrons in a crystal lattice, the behavior of sound waves in a periodic medium, and the properties of electromagnetic waves in a periodic structure. It is also used in signal processing and data compression.

5. Are there any limitations to Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem?

Yes, there are some limitations to the Derivative Identity in Bloch's Theorem. It can only be applied to functions that are periodic with a known period. It also assumes that the function is smooth and has a finite number of discontinuities. Additionally, the theorem may not hold for functions with infinite discontinuities or for functions that are not square-integrable.

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