Which is better to create a vacuum? Air or water?

In summary, the conversation discusses using a car dent removal device with a vacuum to fix dents, but it was not very effective. The idea of using water and air pressure to push the dent out is suggested, but there are limitations with using high pressure on the back of the dent. Another method, called the "Morgan Knocker," is also mentioned, which involves welding a pin to the metal and using a slide-hammer to straighten the dent. Feedback and comments on these methods are welcomed.
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I have recently used a car dent removal device, which creates a vacuum round the device by sucking the air out however it did not work very effectively. I was wondering if it would be better if the vacuum was placed over the dent, filled with water and air in the vacuum was released through a valve and then use a pump to suck the water out of the vacuum, resulting in the dent being pushed back out.
Any comments or feedback would be most appreciated
Thanks
 
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The limit with a vacuum is that you can only apply 1 atmosphere of pressure (15psi) - so you could do the same by putting an extra atmosphere of air/water pressure on the other side.
But the advantage of vacuum is that it holds itself onto the metal - if you used high pressure on the back then you need some way of holding the system against the car.
There is also a problem that getting at the back of the dent is normally harder!
 
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You can't beat the good old 'Morgan Knocker'.
You used to have to drill a hole in a panel and attach the slide-hammer with a screw, but the newer approach is to weld a pin to the metal, then grind it off after straightening.
 

1. What is a vacuum and why is it important?

A vacuum is a space devoid of matter, such as air or water. It is important in many scientific and industrial processes, such as creating a controlled environment for experiments or removing air from packaging to increase shelf life.

2. Which is better for creating a vacuum, air or water?

Neither air nor water is better for creating a vacuum. Both can be used to create a vacuum, but the method of creating the vacuum may differ depending on the specific application.

3. How does air create a vacuum?

A vacuum can be created with air by using a vacuum pump or by reducing the air pressure in a sealed container. The lower the air pressure, the closer the space is to a vacuum.

4. How does water create a vacuum?

Water can create a vacuum through a process called siphoning. This involves using gravity to pull water from a higher point to a lower point, creating a pressure difference that results in a vacuum.

5. Are there any advantages to using air or water for creating a vacuum?

Both air and water have their own advantages and disadvantages for creating a vacuum. Air is more easily accessible and can be used in a wider range of applications, but water can create a stronger vacuum and is more efficient for certain tasks, such as siphoning liquids.

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