Solving for c: Is it Always Possible?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding a bound for the function f(x) in terms of its derivative, using the definition of f'(x) and the absolute value of the integral of f'(x). The conversation also touches on the concept of Banach spaces and their properties in relation to derivatives.
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The point to c being a constant is that it's independent of f, right? Try and read the question eliminating the 'norm' words. You have a function f(x) that has a bounded derivative on [0,1] and f(0)=0. Can you get a bound for f(x) in terms of the bound on the derivative?
 
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Dick said:
The point to c being a constant is that it's independent of f, right?
Yes, you're right!

Try and read the question eliminating the 'norm' words. You have a function f(x) that has a bounded derivative on [0,1] and f(0)=0. Can you get a bound for f(x) in terms of the bound on the derivative?

Well I know that:

[tex]f'(x)= \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h} [/tex]

But I don't see how that is going to help...
 
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If you are studying Banach spaces, you must know more about derivatives than just the definition. If you know f'(x) how can you find f(x)?
 
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Dick said:
If you are studying Banach spaces, you must know more about derivatives than just the definition. If you know f'(x) how can you find f(x)?

[tex]f(x) = \int_0^x f'(t)\ \mbox{d}t [/tex]

I carefully looked two times in my notes from my instructor and I can't find anything that relates f to f' (in context of Banach spaces). Can you give please me another hint, Dick?
 
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dirk_mec1 said:
[tex]f(x) = \int_0^x f'(t)\ \mbox{d}t [/tex]
Take the absolute value of both sides of this, and then work from there.
 
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Do you mean like this?

[tex]|f(x)| = |\int_0^x f'(t)\ \mbox{d}t| \leq \int_0^x |f'(t)|\ \mbox{d}t \leq \int_0^x |f'(t)|_{\infty} \ \mbox{d}t \leq \int_0^1 M \mbox{d}t = M
[/tex]

Is this correct?
 
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dirk_mec1 said:
Do you mean like this?

[tex]|f(x)| = |\int_0^x f'(t)\ \mbox{d}t| \leq \int_0^x |f'(t)|\ \mbox{d}t \leq \int_0^x |f'(t)|_{\infty} \ \mbox{d}t \leq \int_0^1 M \mbox{d}t = M
[/tex]

Is this correct?

That's what I've been waiting for.
 

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