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#1
May1613, 10:17 AM

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If I write photoelectric effect equation to nhv = 1/2mv^{2} + W with n = 1,
I am puzzled whether the n is larger than 1, such as 2 or 3, for which I will get the two or three photon absorption. Could you give me some comments on these question? Best regards. sandf 


#2
May1613, 01:07 PM

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n represents the number of photons ejected from the metal. According to the frequency of the light wave & its intensity, we can obtain the no. of photons.
E=nhv 


#3
May1613, 07:06 PM

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Thanks for your reply. But I cannot understand what you mean. In terms of your opinion, may I create the energy conservation equation n_{1}hv_{1} = 1/2mv^{2}+W+n_{2}hv_{2} ? I understand the photoelectric effect that this phenomenon cannot occur when the energy of one photon is not large enough, i.e. hv < W. But I think nhv could be larger than W, i.e. nhv > W, thus the effect will occur. What is wrong with my understanding? Best regards. sandf 


#4
May1713, 11:01 AM

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Question about photoelectric effect equation
The explanation of the photoelectric effect that Einstein proposed used the assumption that at most one photoelectron can be ejected from the source by a single photon. It implies n=1.
Therefore, you cannot use n>1 to calculate the energy of a single photoelectron. The equation should look like this: [itex]h\nu=E_k+W[/itex] If you have a beam containing n quanta of light(photons) at sufficient frequency for E_{k} to be >0, then they'll eject n photoelectrons from the source. [itex]nh\nu=n(E_k+W)[/itex] 


#5
May1713, 07:24 PM

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Dear Bandersnatch,
Thanks for your help. Otherwise, could I have the equation. [itex]nh\nu=E_k+W[/itex], which also means the emisstion of a single photon. Best sandf 


#6
May1713, 07:41 PM

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One photon hits one electron. If its energy is too low, the electron does not get ejected and the energy is wasted on heating up the bulk of the material instead. Also, it's not Perhaps you got confused by lawmaker's post. There are no photons ejected. It's the photons that do the ejecting, so to speak. hv is the energy of the photon, while E_{k} can be only defined for a massive particle  here, the electron. So your equation is wrong, as it presupposes multiple photons (n) pooling their energy(hv) to eject one electron. That's exactly contrary to what the whole shebang about light quanta was about. 


#7
May1713, 08:06 PM

P: 14

Dear Bandersnatch,
Great thanks for your help. Best regards. sandf 


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