Is every closed path integral zero?

In summary, finding a conservative field involves checking that the line integral of any closed path is 0. However, just because one closed path has a line integral of 0, it does not mean that the field is conservative. All line integrals must equal 0 for a field to be considered conservative.
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Hi

I was wondering, one way that a conservative field can be found is if the line integral of any closed path is 0. However, what if I have a non-conservative field, I travel in a circle in a clockwise manner back to my starting point, then travel along the same path in a counter clockwise manner back to the starting point, isn't this path closed and the line integral of it zero but yet the field is not conservative?

Any help is appreciated
 
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Hi Red CCF! :smile:

A field is convervative if the integral of every closed path vanishes. It's not because the integral of one special closed path vanishes, that all the integrals vanish.

For example, the field

[tex](\frac{-y}{x^2+y^2},\frac{x}{x^2+y^2})[/tex]

is a famous example of a nonconservative field in [itex]\mathbb{R}^2[/itex]. Nevertheless, there are paths over which the integral vanished. Your path is one example, another example is the path formed by the circle with radius (10,10) and radius 1. In general, any path in which (0,0) is not in the interior of the path, will have an integral that vanishes.

So while a lot of integrals may vanish over a certain field, we need them all to vanish in order for the field to be conservative!
 

1. What is a conservative field?

A conservative field is a type of vector field in which the line integral of the vector field between any two points is independent of the path taken between those points. This means that the work done by the field on a particle moving between those two points is the same regardless of the path taken.

2. What are some examples of conservative fields?

Some examples of conservative fields include gravitational fields, electric fields, and magnetic fields. These fields all have the property that the work done on a particle moving between two points is independent of the path taken between those points.

3. How do you determine if a field is conservative?

To determine if a field is conservative, you can use the fundamental theorem of line integrals. This theorem states that if the line integral of a vector field between two points is independent of the path taken, then the field is conservative. Another way to determine if a field is conservative is by using the curl and divergence operators. A field is conservative if and only if its curl is equal to zero and its divergence is also equal to zero.

4. What are the applications of conservative fields?

Conservative fields have many applications in physics and engineering. For example, they are used in the study of fluid dynamics to describe the motion of fluids. They are also used in electromagnetism to describe the behavior of electric and magnetic fields. In addition, conservative fields are important in calculating potential energy and work done in physical systems.

5. What is the difference between a conservative field and a non-conservative field?

The main difference between a conservative field and a non-conservative field is that the line integral of a conservative field is independent of the path taken, while the line integral of a non-conservative field depends on the path. In other words, the work done by a conservative field on a particle is the same regardless of the path taken, while the work done by a non-conservative field may vary depending on the path. Another difference is that conservative fields have a curl and divergence of zero, while non-conservative fields may have non-zero curl and divergence values.

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