How to know the VA rating of a transformer

In summary, people might not use watts as specification because they mean the same thing as VA. VA is the unit used for the apparent power in an electrical circuit, equal to the product of root-mean-square (RMS) voltage and RMS current. Watts is the real power (active power) in watts. If angle is not 0, there's more amps than are necessary to deliver the watts. The copper in the transformer has to carry those extra amps. While those amps don't deliver power to the load, they do heat the copper windings in the transformer. So they rate transformers in volt-amps not watts.
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piyushpandey
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Hello to all


I am an electrical engineer and in an interview I was asked to tell the MVA rating of a transformer of few KV , and nothing was given means neither the power factor and nor the current , so I want to ask you people is there any way to determine the MVA rating of the transformer from the KV or vice-versa.


Please tell me with an example if possible.



Thank you
 
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I am no transformer expert, but I think the KV in your case is only the voltage input or output of the transformer, You can have two transformer of the same KV in and same KV out but of totally different power rating. eg, if you take two transformers both 110V in and 12V out. One can be rated only 1A output, the second one can be 10A. Both has the same voltage but the second one can handle 10 times the power.

For MVA, is this Mega Volt Amp? That is a mighty big transformer! My understanding VA rating is power rating. eg. 100V at 1A is 100VA, so is 50V at 2A or 25V at 4A. They all 100W rating in my understanding. I have no idea why they rate transformer like this rather than just simply by Watts.

Don't trust everything I said, this is just my understanding.
 
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P = I x E

to determine power you need to know volts and amps and that should have be on the nameplate of the machine. The interview process might have been testing you on this basic concept.
 
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2milehi said:
P = I x E

to determine power you need to know volts and amps and that should have be on the nameplate of the machine. The interview process might have been testing you on this basic concept.

What is the reason people don't use watts as specification instead using VA if they mean the same thing?
 
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yungman said:
What is the reason people don't use watts as specification instead using VA if they mean the same thing?

A volt-ampere (VA) is the unit used for the apparent power in an electrical circuit, equal to the product of root-mean-square (RMS) voltage and RMS current.[1] In direct current (DC) circuits, this product is equal to the real power (active power) [2] in watts. Volt-amperes are useful only in the context of alternating current (AC) circuits (sinusoidal voltages and currents of the same frequency).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kva" [Broken]
 
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What did you do?
The best answer would be to explain to them that the question isn't answerable.
 
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dlgoff said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kva" [Broken]

So real power in watts is the real part of VA?
 
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This image is worth a thousand words

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"What is the reason people don't use watts as specification instead using VA if they mean the same thing?"

In AC, Watts = Volts X Amps X (cosine of angle between them)
that cosine term being called "Power Factor"
see 2mile's triangle in post immediately above


If angle is not 0 , there's more amps than are necessary to deliver the watts.
The copper in the transformer has to carry those extra amps.
While those amps don't deliver power to the load, they do heat the copper windings in the transformer.

so they rate transformers in volt-amps not watts.
 
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I learn something today!
 
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Hmmm, some places toss out questions whose answers depend on experience. For example, I remember being asked about common part numbers during an interview. Without having worked in the business, the question was unanswerable...
 
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They could have been checking on your experience, as transformers are fairly standardized, and the voltages they interact with are very standardized (433V, 1kV, 11kV, 33kV, 66kV, 132kV etc). For example, 433V (which is slated for machines using ~415V and allowing for a voltage drop across the connecting cables) is predominant in mines with 1500kVA to 2500kVA transformers.

They could have been testing on the research you did regarding the company whom you were trying to get a job with (online and/or talking to people). Most company's have a rough operating range for transformer (power) size, i.e. 250kVA to 50MVA. This can be limited by the lifting capacity of the cranes they have, the expertise of the designers, the market they are aiming for or the voltages their equipment can handle.

If they don't give you any values then it can be safe to assume they don't want you to do any math.
 

1. How is VA rating of a transformer calculated?

The VA (volt-ampere) rating of a transformer is calculated by multiplying the primary voltage by the secondary current. This value is then multiplied by the square root of 3 for three-phase transformers, or by 2 for single-phase transformers. The resulting number is the VA rating of the transformer.

2. What does the VA rating of a transformer indicate?

The VA rating of a transformer represents the maximum amount of power that the transformer can handle without overheating. It is a measure of the transformer's capacity and is used to determine the appropriate size of the transformer for a specific application.

3. How does the VA rating affect the performance of a transformer?

The VA rating of a transformer is directly related to its power handling capacity. A higher VA rating means the transformer can handle more power without overheating, while a lower VA rating may result in the transformer becoming overloaded and potentially causing damage.

4. Can the VA rating of a transformer be changed?

No, the VA rating of a transformer is determined by its design and cannot be changed. It is important to select a transformer with the appropriate VA rating for the intended application to ensure optimal performance and prevent damage.

5. How do I find the VA rating of a transformer?

The VA rating of a transformer is typically listed on the transformer's nameplate or in its specifications. If this information is not readily available, it can also be calculated using the primary voltage and secondary current as described in the first question.

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