Order of Indefinite Double Integrals

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of indefinite double integrals and whether the order of integration matters. It is mentioned that while indefinite double integrals are not commonly used in mathematics, definite integrals of multivariable functions can have their order of integration reversed using Fubini's Theorem. However, this is not always possible and certain conditions must be met for it to be valid.
  • #1
Kushwoho44
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Hi,

Rather simple question here, just want to confirm:

When we are dealing with indefinite double integrals, it's true to say

∫∫ f(x,y) dx dy = ∫∫ f(x,y) dy dx

i.e, order of integration doesn't matter right?
 
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  • #2
Lets try it with a function f(x,y)=1. Its indefinite integral with respect to x is x+c. The indefinite integral of that with respect to y is xy+cy+d.

If you reverse the order of the variables, you get xy+cx+d, a different answer.

The term "indefinite double integral" is not really used in mathematics. Probably for this reason. You can find the antiderivative with respect to a given variable, but there is no "double antiderivative" as this calculation shows. On the other hand, you can calculate definite integrals of multivariable functions. And you can reverse the order of integration when you calculate those (Fubini's Theorem).
 
  • #3
Vargo said:
On the other hand, you can calculate definite integrals of multivariable functions. And you can reverse the order of integration when you calculate those (Fubini's Theorem).

You can't always reverse that order, e.g.
$$
\int_0^1\int_0^1\frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2}\,\mathrm dx\,\mathrm dy = -\frac\pi4 \quad\mbox{ but } \quad \int_0^1\int_0^1\frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2}\,\mathrm dy\,\mathrm dx = +\frac\pi4
$$

Only when the two definite integrals
$$
\int_{y_1}^{y_2}\int_{x_1}^{x_2}\Big|f(x,y)\Big|\, \mathrm dx\,\mathrm dy <+\infty \quad\mbox{ and } \quad \int_{x_1}^{x_2}\int_{y_1}^{y_2}\Big|f(x,y)\Big|\, \mathrm dy\,\mathrm dx <+\infty
$$
exist, then they are equal, and also equal to
$$
\int_{y_1}^{y_2}\int_{x_1}^{x_2}f(x,y)\,\mathrm dx\,\mathrm dy = \int_{x_1}^{x_2}\int_{y_1}^{y_2}f(x,y)\,\mathrm dy\,\mathrm dx
$$
 
  • #4
Interesting, thanks for both replies guys.
 

What is the Order of Indefinite Double Integrals?

The order of indefinite double integrals refers to the sequence in which the variables are integrated in a double integral. It determines the direction in which the integral is evaluated and can affect the final answer.

How do you determine the Order of Indefinite Double Integrals?

The order of indefinite double integrals is determined by the limits of integration and the given function. Typically, the outer integral is evaluated first, followed by the inner integral. However, this can vary depending on the specific problem.

What is the difference between the Order of Indefinite Double Integrals and the Order of Definite Double Integrals?

The order of indefinite double integrals refers to the sequence in which the variables are integrated, while the order of definite double integrals refers to the order in which the limits of integration are evaluated. Both are important concepts in evaluating double integrals.

Can the Order of Indefinite Double Integrals be changed?

Yes, the order of indefinite double integrals can be changed by switching the order of integration or by using a different coordinate system. This can sometimes make the integral easier to evaluate or lead to a more accurate answer.

What are some common mistakes when evaluating Indefinite Double Integrals?

Some common mistakes when evaluating indefinite double integrals include forgetting to include the correct limits of integration, not switching the order of integration when necessary, and not properly setting up the integrals for the given function. It is important to carefully consider the order of integration and the limits before solving the integral.

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