Order of groups in relation to the First Isomorphism Theorem.

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the orders of subgroups H, K, and HK in a group G. The first isomorphism theorem states that isomorphic groups have the same order, but the left hand side of the equation is not necessarily a group. However, the identity can be proven using a counting argument and Lagrange's theorem. Additionally, if H is normal in G, then HK is a subgroup of G and the orders of (HK)/H and K/(H ∩ K) are isomorphic.
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Given H,K and general finite subgroups of G,

ord(HK) = [(ord(H))(ord(K))] / ord(H intersection K)

I know by the first isomorphism theorem that Isomorphic groups have the same order, but the left hand side of the equation is not a group is it?

I am struggling to show this.
 
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Yes, HK is not necessarily a group, but this is irrelevant. The identity you posted follows from an easy counting argument. The only theorem you need is Lagrange's. Here's a hint: [itex]HK = \cup_{h \in H} hK[/itex]. So ord(HK) = ord(K) * number of distinct cosets of K of the form hK.
 
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This doesn't help your problem, but if one of the subgroups, say H, is normal in G, then HK is a subgroup of G and (HK)/H and K/(H ∩ K) are isomorphic (this is the so-called second isomorphism theorem), from which the statement about the orders follows easily.
 

What is the First Isomorphism Theorem?

The First Isomorphism Theorem is a fundamental theorem in group theory that states that if there is a homomorphism between two groups, then the quotient group of the first group by the kernel of the homomorphism is isomorphic to the image of the homomorphism.

What is the significance of the First Isomorphism Theorem?

The First Isomorphism Theorem is significant because it allows us to understand the structure of a group by studying its homomorphic images and kernels. It also helps us to identify when two groups are essentially the same up to a renaming of elements.

How does the Order of groups relate to the First Isomorphism Theorem?

The Order of groups is important in relation to the First Isomorphism Theorem because it tells us about the size of the groups involved. The theorem states that the order of the quotient group is equal to the order of the first group divided by the order of the kernel.

What is the role of the Order of groups in proving the First Isomorphism Theorem?

The Order of groups is essential in proving the First Isomorphism Theorem. One of the key steps in the proof involves showing that the quotient group is well-defined, which requires using the order of the group and the kernel to ensure that every element in the image of the homomorphism has a unique preimage in the first group.

Can the First Isomorphism Theorem be applied to non-Abelian groups?

Yes, the First Isomorphism Theorem can be applied to non-Abelian groups. It holds for any two groups, regardless of whether they are Abelian or not. However, the theorem may not be as useful in non-Abelian groups since there may not be as many homomorphisms between them as there are in Abelian groups.

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