Derivation of non-inertial terms in non-inertial systems using rotation matrices

In summary, you can derive the relationship between forces in inertial and non-inertial reference frames without using rotation matrices by considering the acceleration in both frames and the definition of force.
  • #1
andresordonez
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(I know how to do this without the rotation matrices)
Any suggestion would be much appreciated.

Homework Statement


Show that the relationship between the forces in the inertial (S') and non-inertial(S) reference frames, with a coordinate transformation given by

[tex] \vec{r}=R \vec{r'} [/tex]

is:

[tex] \vec{F'} = \vec{F} + m(\vec{\omega} \times (\vec{\omega} \times \vec{r}) + 2\vec{\omega} \times \vec{v}) [/tex]


Homework Equations


[tex]
\[ R = \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
\cos(\omega t) & \sin(\omega t) & 0 \\
-\sin(\omega t) & \cos(\omega t) & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 1 \end{array} \right).\]

\[ R^{-1} = R^t = \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
\cos(\omega t) & -\sin(\omega t) & 0 \\
\sin(\omega t) & \cos(\omega t) & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 1 \end{array} \right)\]

\[ -\vec{\omega} \times (\vec{\omega} \times \vec{r}) = -\omega^2 \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right) \vec{r}\]

\[ \vec{\omega} \times \vec{v} = -\omega \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
0 & 1 & 0 \\
-1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right) \vec{v}\]
[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]
\ddot{\vec{r}} = R\ddot{\vec{r'}} + 2\dot{R}\dot{\vec{r'}} + \ddot{R}\vec{r'} = \ddot{R}R^{-1}\vec{r} + 2\dot{R}(\dot{R^{-1}}\vec{r}+R^{-1}\dot{\vec{r}}) + R\ddot{\vec{r'}}
[/tex]

[tex]
\[ \ddot{R}R^{-1}\vec{r} = -\omega^2 \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right) \vec{r}\]
[/tex]
[tex]
\[ \dot{R}(R^{-1}\vec{r} + R^{-1}\dot{\vec{r}}) = \omega^2 \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right) \vec{r} - \omega \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
0 & -1 & 0\\
1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0\end{array} \right) \dot{\vec{r}}\]
[/tex]

then

[tex]
\ddot{\vec{r}} = -\vec{\omega} \times (\vec{\omega} \times \vec{r}) - 2\vec{\omega} \times \dot{\vec{r}} + R\ddot{\vec{r'}}
[/tex]
[tex]
R\vec{F'} = \vec{F} + m\vec{\omega}\times(\vec{\omega}\times\vec{r}) + 2m \vec{\omega} \times \dot{\vec{r}}
[/tex]

How do I get rid of R??
 
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Hello, it seems like you are trying to derive the relationship between forces in inertial and non-inertial reference frames using a coordinate transformation. While your approach is certainly valid, there is an easier way to derive this relationship without involving rotation matrices.

First, let's define the acceleration in the inertial reference frame (S') as \ddot{\vec{r'}}. This can be written in terms of the acceleration in the non-inertial frame (S) as \ddot{\vec{r}} + 2\vec{\omega} \times \dot{\vec{r}} + \vec{\omega} \times (\vec{\omega} \times \vec{r}). This can be easily derived by considering the Coriolis and centrifugal forces that act on a particle in a rotating frame.

Next, we can use the definition of force, \vec{F} = m\ddot{\vec{r}}, to rewrite this equation as \vec{F'} = m(\ddot{\vec{r}} + 2\vec{\omega} \times \dot{\vec{r}} + \vec{\omega} \times (\vec{\omega} \times \vec{r})). This is the desired relationship between forces in the two reference frames.

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any further questions.
 

1. What is a non-inertial system?

A non-inertial system is a reference frame that is not undergoing constant, unaccelerated motion. This means that the laws of physics, specifically Newton's laws of motion, do not hold true in this type of system.

2. How are rotation matrices used in deriving non-inertial terms?

Rotation matrices are used to describe the orientation and rotation of a non-inertial reference frame in relation to an inertial reference frame. By using rotation matrices, the equations of motion can be transformed to account for the non-inertial effects.

3. What are some examples of non-inertial systems?

Examples of non-inertial systems include rotating platforms, accelerating vehicles, and objects in freefall.

4. Why do we need to include non-inertial terms in the equations of motion?

Including non-inertial terms is necessary to accurately describe the motion of objects in non-inertial systems. Neglecting these terms can lead to incorrect predictions and calculations.

5. How do non-inertial terms affect the equations of motion in a non-inertial system?

Non-inertial terms introduce additional forces and accelerations into the equations of motion, which account for the effects of the non-inertial reference frame. These terms are often dependent on the angular velocity and rotation of the system.

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