Gravitation lab for online simulation-equation derivation help?

In summary, the conversation discusses a gravitation lab for online simulation and focuses on deriving an equation for the period of an object in a circular orbit. The lab provides a simulation where the user can change the number of bodies and their properties, and the equation derived from Q6 is used to find the value of G, the universal gravitational constant. The conversation also mentions using the equation for centripetal acceleration and circumference of a circle to derive the period equation, and the individual is stuck on how to link velocity and position with period. They suggest setting t2 / x2r = 4pi2 / T2 and solving for T as a possible direction to go in.
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gravitation lab for online simulation--equation derivation help?

Homework Statement


To start with, you can access the lab here: http://phet.colorado.edu/teacher_ideas/view-contribution.php?contribution_id=690" .
I'm having trouble with the "Activity 4" part. It reads:
"Change the number of bodies to 3. Notice that the position and velocity for Body 1 and Body 2 changed when you clicked by the 3. Change them back, then set Body 3’s mass to 0.001, its x position to 100, its y velocity to your value from Q7, and its y position and x velocity to 0. Using your equation from Q6, the fact that speed is the distance over time, and the equation for the circumference of a circle, derive an equation for the period of an object in a circular orbit. Show all of your work below."
You can ignore all the stuff about changing bodies' masses and etc., unless you want to check out the simulation http://phet.colorado.edu/sims/my-solar-system/my-solar-system.swf" . I'm more worried about the deriving the equation part of it.

Homework Equations


The equation from Q6 that it mentioned was derived by me like so (the point was to find what value the sim was using for G, universal gravitational constant): G=v2r / m
centripetal a= 4pi2r / T2=v2/r
Fnet = ma
Circumference=2 *pi* r
v=x/t

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how to start here! My attempt at a solution was putting the alternate equation for centripetal acceleration with period included in the section above--that truly is the extent of my thinking about it before I hit a brick wall. I don't know how to link velocity and position with period, as well. I'd like a verification that my previous derivation was correct.
 
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Okay, further attempts at a solution:

Circumference=2*pi*r
acentrip. =4pi2r / T2 = (circ)2 / T2

or maybe ac = v2 / r = (x2/t2) / r = t2 / x2r

How do I work G=v2r / M into it and make a comprehensive equation out of the whole thing? Any ideas?

EDIT: maybe if I set t2 / x2r = 4pi2 / T2 and solve for T? would this be a useful direction to go in? Maybe then I can make substitutions.
 

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