Probably simple proof (Stoke's Theorem)

In summary, the conversation discussed proving the statement that ∫u∇v dl = - ∫v∇u dl for integrals over closed surfaces. The user provided a solution using integration by parts, while another user suggested using Stoke's Theorem. Both methods are valid and can lead to the same result. The use of Stoke's Theorem was further explained and clarified.
  • #1
theBTMANIAC
6
0

Homework Statement



Prove that ∫u∇v dl = - ∫v∇u dl

Both integrals are over closed surfaces.

Homework Equations



The question is being asked in a chapter over Stoke's Theorem. However, I'm confused because I think found the solution without invoking the theorem... Which leads to...

The Attempt at a Solution



I used integration by parts to derive

∫u∇v dl = uv - ∫v∇u dl

However since it's over a closed surface, I believe (uv) goes to zero. Is this the correct proof? Thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2

Thank you for your question. Your solution using integration by parts is a valid approach to proving this statement. However, there is another way to prove it using Stoke's Theorem, which may be more in line with the chapter you are currently studying.

First, let's define the closed surface as S and the vector field as F = u∇v. Using Stoke's Theorem, we can rewrite the left side of the equation as:

∫u∇v dl = ∫∫∇×u∇v dS

Next, using the vector identity ∇×(f∇g) = ∇f×∇g, we can simplify the above equation to:

∫u∇v dl = ∫∫∇u×∇v dS

Similarly, we can rewrite the right side of the equation as:

-∫v∇u dl = -∫∫∇×v∇u dS = -∫∫∇v×∇u dS

Since the cross product is anti-commutative, we can see that ∇u×∇v = -∇v×∇u. Therefore, the right side of the equation becomes:

-∫v∇u dl = ∫∫∇v×∇u dS

Combining this with the left side of the equation, we get:

∫u∇v dl = ∫∫∇u×∇v dS = -∫v∇u dl

This proves that the two integrals are equal. I hope this helps and clarifies the use of Stoke's Theorem in this proof. Keep up the good work in your studies!



Scientist
 

What is Stoke's Theorem?

Stoke's Theorem is a fundamental theorem in mathematics that relates the surface integral of a vector field over a surface to the line integral of the same vector field over the boundary of the surface. In other words, it connects the two basic operations of integration in multivariable calculus.

What is the significance of Stoke's Theorem?

Stoke's Theorem is significant because it provides a powerful tool for evaluating difficult surface integrals by converting them into simpler line integrals. It also has important applications in physics, particularly in the study of fluid flows and electromagnetic fields.

What is the proof of Stoke's Theorem?

The proof of Stoke's Theorem is based on the fundamental theorem of calculus and the definition of the curl of a vector field. It involves dividing the surface into small pieces and using the definition of the surface integral to evaluate each piece. The pieces are then combined using the divergence theorem to obtain the final result.

How is Stoke's Theorem different from Green's Theorem?

Stoke's Theorem is a higher-dimensional version of Green's Theorem. While Green's Theorem relates a line integral to a double integral over a region in the xy-plane, Stoke's Theorem relates a line integral to a surface integral over a region in 3D space. This makes Stoke's Theorem more general and applicable to a wider range of problems.

What are some common applications of Stoke's Theorem?

Stoke's Theorem has various applications in physics, such as calculating the circulation of a fluid flow or the work done by an electric field. It is also used in engineering, particularly in the study of fluid dynamics and electromagnetics. In addition, it has applications in other areas of mathematics, including differential geometry and topology.

Similar threads

  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
804
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
597
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Differential Geometry
Replies
11
Views
384
  • Linear and Abstract Algebra
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
994
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
1
Views
48
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
100
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
2K
Back
Top