CPU differences: quad core, dual core, etc. for CFD

In summary, The conversation discusses the differences between processors for computers, specifically in the context of using them for CFD simulations. The speaker is a graduate student looking for advice on which processors to choose for new computers in their lab. They mention using Fluent software for modeling core flow in a rocket engine and having four computers in parallel for more complex computations. They also ask about the benefits of quad core vs dual core processors and whether to consider Intel's Xeon or Pentium 4 or an AMD processor. Price is not a top priority, but they are looking for a good value. They also ask for advice on motherboards and video cards. The conversation ends with a recommendation to check out a computer overclocking forum for more information.
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timmay143
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Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out some differences between all the different types of processors out there for computers. I am a graduate student learning about CFD, and my advisor wanted me to check out some different processors because we would like to get new computers. Currently in our lab, we use Fluent to model core flow for a rocket engine. Some other graduate students have set up four computers in parallel to run more complicated computations. However, a couple of computers are used regularly for desktops and simple calculations for teaching and learning Fluent for new students. I am not sure of all the specs for the parallel computers (I know they are Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz CPU, 3GB of RAM, using Windows XP), and I do not fully understand how this works. I just know that the computers in parallel split up the computations in order to get faster results for more complex models. The new computers will be used mainly for individual desktops. However, if possible, the new computers would be used to run some of the rocket engine models. We are not necessarily looking to replace the computers that are in parallel. We just have some extra money to spend and thought it would be nice to get new computers. One of my questions is what would be better, the quad core processor or 2 dual core processors. After researching some prices on pricewatch.com, I see that the quad cores are more expensive than the duo or dual core. Is there any benefit from using one quad compared to two dual/duo for computations? My knowledge is limited about the technology as well. From my basic understanding the duo/dual and quad processors are able to do more task than a single processor, correct? Can this be compared to two computers in parallel as well? Also, should we consider Intel’s Xeon or Pentium 4 or a AMD processor? I understand the Xeon are for servers, but I do not understand what a server does and if using the Xeon is applicable for my situation. I also do not know much about the AMD processors. Finally, we have money to spend so price is not an absolute priority. However, we do not feel that the most expensive is necessary so we are looking at a few down from the top, i.e. instead of the $875 xeon 5080 we would probably look at the $200 5050 unless the 5080 is just really worth the extra $700. We plan on either buying the parts separately or going through a distributor such as Dell or HP depending upon their prices. Sorry this is really long but if anyone could point me in the right direction the help would be greatly appreciative! I also understand that some of the choices are personal preferences so if anyone has a similar setup or one they are really happy with please let me know! One last thing, I need some advice on the motherboards and video cards as well. Thanks!
Tim
 
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First, I'd check to make sure the software can make use of 4 processors at the same time.

Next, the advantages/disadvantages are all about memory access. I don't know the specifics of each processor though - ie, whether two dual cores means two memory busses and twice the throughput. You may want to check on that...

I know that's a little thin, but I hope it helped for a start...
 
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Thanks Russ! I'll check it out.
 
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core duo conroe or the quad version of that is the current speed king
and no need for the top priced one
as the cheaper ones over clock past the top priced one speeds
what AMD calls quad is two duals
intel makes 4 on a chip
but 2 chips should run cooler

computer over clock forum

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1. What is the difference between quad core and dual core CPUs for CFD?

Quad core CPUs have four separate processing units, while dual core CPUs have two. This means that quad core CPUs can handle more tasks simultaneously, making them more efficient for complex CFD simulations.

2. How does the number of cores affect the performance of CFD simulations?

The more cores a CPU has, the more operations it can perform at once. This results in faster processing times for CFD simulations, as more calculations can be done concurrently.

3. Can a quad core CPU perform better than a dual core CPU for certain CFD tasks?

Yes, quad core CPUs are better suited for tasks that require high levels of parallel processing, such as running multiple simulations simultaneously or handling large amounts of data. Dual core CPUs may be sufficient for simpler CFD tasks.

4. Are there any other factors besides the number of cores that affect CPU performance for CFD?

Yes, the clock speed and cache size of a CPU also play a significant role in its performance for CFD simulations. Higher clock speeds and larger cache sizes can improve processing speed and efficiency.

5. Is it necessary to have a quad core CPU for CFD simulations?

It depends on the complexity of the simulations and the level of processing power needed. For basic CFD tasks, a dual core CPU may suffice. However, for more demanding simulations, a quad core CPU can greatly improve performance and efficiency.

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