Can Someone Explain How the Second Law of Thermodynamics Opposes the First Law?

In summary, the conversation discusses the second law of thermodynamics and its relation to refrigerators and heat engines. The first law states that energy is conserved, while the second law states that entropy will tend to increase over time, meaning that systems will become more disordered. There is no contradiction between the two laws. The conversation also mentions a potential confusion about the role of refrigerators in transforming heat and work.
  • #1
kthouz
193
0
1. i read all my notes about the thermodynamics laws and the second one was so interesting? As i found it opposes the first one so how ia that possible. If not just tell me the right thing.
2. I've tried to make a diffenrence between the heat engines and the refrigerator: heat engines absorb heat and transform it( not completely) into work whereas refrigerators transorm work (with some few additional heat) into heat. But the problem is that I'm not conviced about the refrigeratorm, so i want someone else to make me sure.
 
Science news on Phys.org
  • #2
You are correct. Refrigerators use mechanical work to move heat around, heat engines allow heat to move around to produce mechanical work.
 
  • #3
You must have somehow misinterpreted your notes. The 1st law states that energy is conserved, and the second law states that the entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will increase, or tend to increase over time, approaching some maximum value at equilibrium. There is no ccontradiction whatsoever.
 
  • #4
Yeah entropy (A measure of disorder) will tend to increase, meaning that everything will get more disordered as time progesses. Solids (Very ordered), Liquids (Disordered) and gases (Very disordered).
 

What is the first law of thermodynamics?

The first law of thermodynamics, also known as the law of conservation of energy, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. This means that the total energy of a closed system remains constant.

What is the second law of thermodynamics?

The second law of thermodynamics states that in any energy conversion, some energy will be lost as heat. This means that the total entropy, or disorder, of a closed system will always increase over time.

What is the difference between an open and closed system in thermodynamics?

An open system allows for the exchange of energy and matter with its surroundings, while a closed system does not. In thermodynamics, the laws apply to closed systems, as they do not allow for the exchange of energy or matter.

What is the significance of thermodynamics in everyday life?

Thermodynamics plays a crucial role in understanding and predicting natural phenomena, such as weather patterns, chemical reactions, and energy transformations. It also has practical applications in industries such as engineering, biology, and environmental science.

How do the laws of thermodynamics relate to the concept of entropy?

The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of a closed system will always increase over time. This means that energy will naturally disperse and become more disordered, leading to an increase in entropy. The laws of thermodynamics help explain and predict the direction and magnitude of changes in entropy.

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
954
Replies
20
Views
1K
Replies
13
Views
1K
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • Thermodynamics
Replies
2
Views
766
Replies
12
Views
1K
Replies
13
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
15K
Replies
15
Views
1K
Replies
19
Views
2K
Back
Top