Limiting value of the velocity

In summary: The velocity cannot increase without bounds as velocity of a material object is limited by Relativity.
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alice137
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Homework Statement



This problem concerns the mathematical treatment of a simple model
of an electric toy car of mass m, which is initially stationary. The bat-
teries in the car can be considered as an electrical power source with
constant power P.

Find the limiting value of the velocity at very large times and
comment on whether your result seems reasonable.

Homework Equations



On calculating I got v=sqrt(2Pt/m).

The Attempt at a Solution



As t -> Infinity, so does v-> Infinity. But that does not makes sense. Where am I wrong. Please help.
 
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Another part of the question was:

Find the limiting value of the acceleration at very large and very
small times and comment on whether your results seem reason-
able.

On calaulating I got a=sqrt(p/2mt).

As t -> 0, a -> Infinity. Again That doesn't makes sense.
 
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alice137 said:
Find the limiting value of the velocity at very large times and
comment on whether your result seems reasonable.

But that does not makes sense. Where am I wrong

Hi alice! :smile:

What makes you think you're wrong?

The question obviously expects the answer not to be make sense.

You're asked to comment on why correct maths doesn't seem to agree with reality!

What do you think … ? :smile:
 
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Well I personally believe that the answer for acceleration makes sense. Initially the car might have acquired some velocity in a small time. I think the high acceleration is plausible.

For velocity, it cannot increase without bounds as velocity of a material object is limited by Relativity. But if we see the time dependent relation of acceleration and see that as t-> infinity, a->0, which means that v-> some constant. But I cannot find that constant based on these arguments.
 
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alice137 said:
For velocity, it cannot increase without bounds as velocity of a material object is limited by Relativity.

Hi alice! :smile:

At relativistic speeds, the mass m gets bigger, and the original formula is probably wrong also.
But if we see the time dependent relation of acceleration and see that as t-> infinity, a->0, which means that v-> some constant. But I cannot find that constant based on these arguments.

No, you're wrong - there's no problem there. a->0 does not have the same consequences as a = 0: there's no reason why v should -> constant.

√n -> ∞, but √(n+1) - √n -> 0 (for example, √1,000,001 - √1,000,000 ~ .0005). :smile:
 
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What do you insist then; v should increase without bounds?
 
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No, but the momentum can increase without bounds, even though v is always less than c. :smile:

(momentum = mv/√(1 - v^2/c^2).)
 
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Then I suppose that the answer to the first question should be v-> c at very large times even although we cannot see it directly from the equation. I guess we need to derive another relativistic expression for very large times. Right! :smile:
 

1. What is the limiting value of velocity?

The limiting value of velocity is the maximum speed that an object can reach in a specific situation. It is also referred to as the terminal velocity.

2. How is the limiting value of velocity calculated?

The limiting value of velocity is calculated by taking into account the forces acting on an object and its mass. This includes air resistance, gravity, and any other external forces.

3. What factors affect the limiting value of velocity?

The factors that affect the limiting value of velocity include the mass and size of the object, the density of the medium it is moving through, and the forces acting on it.

4. Can the limiting value of velocity be exceeded?

Yes, the limiting value of velocity can be exceeded if there is a significant increase in the forces acting on the object, such as a decrease in air resistance or an increase in the applied force.

5. What is the significance of the limiting value of velocity in physics?

The limiting value of velocity is an important concept in physics as it helps us understand the maximum speeds at which objects can travel in different situations. It also plays a crucial role in studying the motion of objects and predicting their behavior.

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