Do Falling Particles in Schwarzschild Solution Radiate?

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In summary, based on the Schwarzschild solution, if the infalling particles are spherically symmetric, there will be no radiation. However, for a single infalling particle, the radiated power is proportional to its mass raised to a power p, where p>1. This means that for a test particle with a small mass, the radiation will be negligible. When discussing the possibility of EM radiation, it is important to note that neither gravitational nor EM waves have propagating monopole modes, so a uniformly charged infalling spherical cloud will not radiate EM radiation. The issue of EM radiation by free-falling particles is complex and has been extensively discussed in previous literature.
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Consider the Schwarzschild solution where millions of test particles move towards the event horizon.

Will the particles falling in radiate? If so, how can they radiate as they do not have any proper acceleration?
 
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Passionflower said:
Consider the Schwarzschild solution where millions of test particles move towards the event horizon.

Will the particles falling in radiate?

If the infalling cloud is spherically symmetric, then there is no radiation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkhoff's_theorem_(relativity)

In the case of a single infalling particle, the radiated power is proportional to the mass of the test particle raised to some power p, where p>1. (I believe p=2 for a small mass infalling toward a large mass.) The whole idea of a test particle is that we're taking the limit where its mass is small, and therefore if the radiated power is proportional to [itex]m^p[/itex], it becomes negligible, in the sense that the square of an infinitesimal number dx is negligible compared to the original number dx. If radiation by a test particle wasn't negligible in this sense, then there would be no way to define geodesics using test particles.

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If so, how can they radiate as they do not have any proper acceleration?

If a mass m infalls toward another mass, yes, you will get gravitational radiation. If m is infinitesimally small (the case of a test particle), then there is no radiation. If m is not infinitesimally small, then it radiates, but it also doesn't follow a geodesic, so it's not true that it experiences zero proper acceleration.
 
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bcrowell said:
In the case of a single infalling particle, the radiated power is proportional to the mass of the test particle raised to some power p, where p>1. (I believe p=2 for a small mass infalling toward a large mass.)
Agreed, assuming you speak of gravitational radiation here.

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If m is not infinitesimally small, then it radiates, but it also doesn't follow a geodesic, so it's not true that it experiences zero proper acceleration.
So in addition to gravitational radiation, when it accelerates is must also radiate EM radiation do you agree?
 
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Passionflower said:
Agreed, assuming you speak of gravitational radiation here.


So in addition to gravitational radiation, when it accelerates is must also radiate EM radiation do you agree?

Was your original question intended to be about gravitational radiation, or elecromagnetic radiation? I took it as a question about gravitational radiation, since you didn't state that the particles were charged.

A uniformly charged infalling spherical cloud will not radiate EM radiation. The reason is the same as for gravitational radiation: neither gravitational waves nor EM waves have propagating monopole modes.

Anyway, the issue of EM radiation by free-falling particles is complicated. The classic paper is C. Morette-DeWitt and B.S. DeWitt, "Falling Charges," Physics, 1,3-20 (1964), available at http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/EM/dewitt_physics_1_3_64.pdf This issue has been discussed many times on this forum within the last year, so there's not much point in repeating the discussion.
 
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1. Will all objects radiate?

Yes, all objects will radiate some form of electromagnetic radiation. The amount and type of radiation depends on the object's temperature and composition.

2. How does an object's temperature affect its radiation?

An object's temperature directly affects the amount of radiation it emits. As an object's temperature increases, it emits more radiation and at higher frequencies. This is known as thermal radiation.

3. Can non-thermal radiation occur?

Yes, non-thermal radiation can occur when charged particles, such as electrons, emit radiation due to their movement. This type of radiation is often seen in cosmic events such as supernovae.

4. Is all radiation harmful?

No, not all radiation is harmful. In fact, some forms of radiation, such as visible light, are essential for life on Earth. However, high levels of certain types of radiation can be dangerous and even deadly.

5. How is radiation used in science and technology?

Radiation is used in a variety of ways in science and technology. Some common uses include medical imaging, cancer treatment, and energy production. It is also used in communication systems, such as radio and television, and in various industrial processes.

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