Wire tension and motion in a pulley system

In summary, Joey and Caitlin, both with different masses, are hanging from a wire looped through an ideal pulley. The question asks to calculate the tension of the wire and if Caitlin, who is unable to touch anything, is able to change the motion of the system. The answer to the first question involves using Newton's second law and solving a system of equations. The answer to the second question is no, as Caitlin is only able to exert a force through the rope connecting her and Joey, but this internal force cannot change the motion of the system.
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mezmorize
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Hello everyone, i need help with these 2 question from physics. I am a year 11 physics student.

Joey and Caitlin hang from two ends of a wire, looped through an ideal pulley. Joey has a mass of 75.0Kg, whilst Caitlin weighs 637N.

a) calculate the tension of the wire?

b) If Caitlin is not able to reach out and touch anything, is she able to change the motion of the system? Why?
 
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mezmorize said:
a) calculate the tension of the wire?

What forces act on which of them? In this case, it's easy to determine directions of their motion and calculate acceleration.

mezmorize said:
b) If Caitlin is not able to reach out and touch anything, is she able to change the motion of the system? Why?

Some kind of force is required to change the motion of the system. Now, is there any way to obtain that force if Caitlin can't touch anything (just remember the definition of force)?
 
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a) From Newton 2nd law applied to catlin and joey we get the following two equations.
[tex]W_C-T=m_Ca_C[/tex]
[tex]W_J-T=m_Ja_J[/tex] where T is the tension of the wire. All you need to do is solve this system of equations for T, given that [tex]a_C=-a_J[/tex] where minus sign comes from fact that they ll move in opposite direction(if one is going up the other will go down).

b) If caitlin is not able to reach out and touch anything except the rope, then the only force that caitlin can exert is to Joey through the rope. But then due to Newtons 3rd Law, Joey will exert an equal but opposite force to caitlin. Because caitlin and joey are connected with the rope, this internal force cannot change the motion of neither of them, neither the motion of the rope, it just increases the tension of the rope.
 
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N-Gin said:
What forces act on which of them? In this case, it's easy to determine directions of their motion and calculate acceleration.



Some kind of force is required to change the motion of the system. Now, is there any way to obtain that force if Caitlin can't touch anything (just remember the definition of force)?

thanks :), I've calculated the acceleration which is 0.7ms-2 but i can still seem to find out how to find the tension :S
 
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ahhhh don't worry delta explained it xD
 

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