How Does Excess HCl Affect pH in Methyl Ammonia Titration?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the titration of 50.0mL of 0.10 M methyl ammonia with 0.10 M HCl and calculating the pH after different volumes of titrant are added. The pH values after 15mL, 25mL, and 50mL of titrant were given as 11.05, 10.68, and 8.98 respectively. The calculation for the pH value after 60mL of titrant was discussed, taking into account the excess of 1 mmol of HCl at this point. The conversation also mentions the importance of considering both volume and millimoles when finding the pH of the solution. The final result is a
  • #1
Mag
consider the titration of 50.0mL of 0.10 M methyl ammonia with 0.10 M HCl. Calculate the pH after
15mL of titrant= 11.05
25mL of titrant= 10.68
50mL of titrant= 8.98
60mL of titrant= ?
At 60 mL there is an excess of 1 mmol of HCl. At this point do I say that the pH is 1 (-log of 0.10)? I'm at a loss.


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  • #2
You need to know the reaction first:

[tex]MeNH_2+HCl \longrightarrow MeNH_3^+Cl^-[/tex]

Now you can place the millimoles of reactants to see which is excessive. You can find the millimole amounts by multiplying milliliters with molarity, but I think you know how to do this calculation.

Please consider the volume and millimoles together when trying to find the pH of the solution, 0.1 millimoles of HCl is in excess in 110 mL of total solution, where the contribution of [itex]MeNH_3^+[/itex] can be easily omitted.
 
  • #3
This is what you were trying to tell me, correct?
(0.10M HCl)(60mL)=6mmol
(0.10M [tex]MeNH_2[/tex])(50mL)=5mmol


[tex]MeNH_2+HCl \longrightarrow MeNH_3^+Cl^-[/tex]

initial: 5mmol[tex]MeNH_2[/tex] 6mmol[tex]HCl[/tex]
[tex]\Delta[/tex]: -5mmol [tex]MeNH_2[/tex] -5mmol[tex]HCl[/tex]
final: 0mmol[tex]MeNH_2[/tex] 1mmol[tex]HCl[/tex] 5mmol[tex]MeNH_3^++Cl^-[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1mmol}{50mL (analyte) + 60mL (titrant)}[/tex]
 
  • #4
This is it. Congrats. The negative logarithm of the result will be your pH value.
 

1. What is an acid base titration problem?

An acid base titration problem is a type of analytical chemistry problem that involves the determination of the concentration of an unknown acid or base solution by reacting it with a known concentration of another acid or base solution.

2. How is an acid base titration problem set up?

An acid base titration problem involves setting up a burette with the known concentration solution, adding the unknown solution to a flask, and slowly adding the known solution to the flask until the endpoint is reached. The endpoint is when the indicator changes color, indicating that the reaction is complete.

3. What is the purpose of an indicator in an acid base titration?

An indicator is used in an acid base titration to determine when the endpoint has been reached. It is a substance that changes color when the pH of the solution reaches a certain value, indicating that the reaction is complete.

4. How is the concentration of the unknown solution calculated in an acid base titration?

The concentration of the unknown solution can be calculated using the formula M1V1 = M2V2, where M1 is the concentration of the known solution, V1 is the volume of the known solution used, M2 is the concentration of the unknown solution, and V2 is the volume of the unknown solution used.

5. What are some sources of error in an acid base titration?

Some sources of error in an acid base titration include inaccurate measurements, improper technique in adding the titrant, incorrect calibration of equipment, and the presence of impurities in the solutions. It is important to repeat the titration multiple times and take an average to minimize these errors.

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