Properties of in-falling radial plungers

In summary: John Wheeler and Edwin Taylor.In summary, the conversation discusses the three types of in-falling radial plungers and their corresponding equations. These frames, known as drip, rain, and hail, have different energy/mass ratios and velocities due to the effects of time dilation in the presence of a black hole. The significance of these frames and their equations highlights the complex nature of gravity near a black hole.
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From 'Exploring Black Holes' by John Wheeler and Edwin Taylor; can apply to any object falling radially towards a static spherical mass (where the mass of the infalling object is much smaller than the static spherical mass).


Three types of in-falling radial plunger-

Drip (dropped from rest at ro)

Rain (dropped from rest at infinity)

Hail (hurled inward at speed vfar from a great distance).


E/m (energy/mass ratio of the object)

Drip

[tex]\left(1-\frac{2M}{r_o}\right)^{1/2}\ <\ 1[/tex]

Rain

[tex]\left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)\frac{dt}{d\tau}\ =\ 1[/tex]

where dτ is the time dilation for an object in free fall from infinity which in this case is the sum of both the time dilation for gravity and velocity- dτ=√(1-2M/r)·√(1-v2/c2)=(1-2M/r) where v=√(2M/r)c for an object in free fall from infinity (see below).

Hail

[tex]\left(1-v_{far}^2\right)^{-1/2}\ >\ 1[/tex]


Eshell/m (energy/mass ratio of object relative to shell frame)

Drip

[tex]\left(1-\frac{2M}{r_o}\right)^{1/2}\left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)^{-1/2}[/tex]

Rain

[tex]\left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)^{-1/2}[/tex]

Hail

[tex]\left(1-v_{far}^2\right)^{-1/2}\left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)^{-1/2}[/tex]


vshell (velocity of object relative to shell frame)

Drip

[tex]\left(1-\frac{2M}{r_o}\right)^{-1/2}\left(\frac{2M}{r}-\frac{2M}{r_o}\right)^{1/2}[/tex]

Rain

[tex]\left(\frac{2M}{r}\right)^{1/2}[/tex]

Hail

[tex]\left[\frac{2M}{r}+v_{far}^2\left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)\right]^{1/2}[/tex]


multiply by [itex](1-2M/r)[/itex] for velocity of in-falling object as observed from infinity- dr/dt.

multiply by c for SI units.


Source-
Sections 3 & B of 'Exploring Black Holes' (Note: The above equations were collected from a draft of chapter 3 for the new edition, since collecting these equations, the draft has been revised and all mention of drip and hail frames has been removed, the authors stated they wanted to focus primarily on the rain frame. They did however send a copy of the draft that includes the drip & hail frame and said that I was welcome to distribute this version (see attachments).
 

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Thank you for sharing this information on the different types of in-falling radial plungers and their corresponding equations. As a scientist studying black holes, I find this to be a very interesting and relevant topic.

I would like to add some thoughts on the significance of these different frames and their corresponding energy/mass ratios and velocities. The key concept here is the idea of time dilation in the presence of a strong gravitational field.

In the case of the drip frame, where the object is dropped from rest at a distance ro from the black hole, the energy/mass ratio must be less than 1 in order for the object to reach the event horizon before being stretched to infinity. This is due to the strong time dilation effect near the event horizon, where time appears to slow down for an outside observer. As the energy/mass ratio approaches 1, the time dilation becomes infinite and the object never reaches the event horizon.

In the rain frame, where the object is dropped from rest at infinity, the energy/mass ratio must be exactly 1 for the object to reach the event horizon in a finite amount of time. This is because the time dilation effect near the event horizon cancels out the velocity of the object, allowing it to reach the event horizon in a finite time.

Finally, in the hail frame, where the object is hurled inward at a high velocity from a great distance, the energy/mass ratio must be greater than 1 in order for the object to reach the event horizon. This is because the object's high velocity counteracts the time dilation effect near the event horizon, allowing it to reach the event horizon in a finite time.

These different frames and their corresponding energy/mass ratios and velocities demonstrate the complex effects of gravity near a black hole. I appreciate you sharing this information with the forum and I look forward to further discussions on this topic.
 

1. What are in-falling radial plungers?

In-falling radial plungers are mechanical devices used in industrial and scientific applications to control the flow of fluids. They consist of a cylinder with a plunger attached to a rod, which can be pushed or pulled to open or close a valve.

2. How do in-falling radial plungers work?

In-falling radial plungers work by using the force of gravity to push the plunger down into the cylinder, creating a seal and stopping the flow of fluid. When the plunger is pulled back up, the seal is broken and the fluid can flow through the valve again.

3. What are the properties of in-falling radial plungers?

The properties of in-falling radial plungers include their size, shape, material, and mechanism of operation. They can also have different levels of precision, durability, and resistance to corrosion and wear.

4. What are the applications of in-falling radial plungers?

In-falling radial plungers are commonly used in industries such as oil and gas, chemical processing, and water treatment. They are also used in scientific experiments and research to control the flow of fluids in laboratory settings.

5. How do you maintain in-falling radial plungers?

Proper maintenance of in-falling radial plungers includes regular cleaning, lubrication, and inspection for wear and tear. It is also important to follow manufacturer instructions for operation and storage to ensure optimal performance and longevity.

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