Sick freak kills first-graders

jim hardy

wow i see why you had trouble.

NRA doesn't toot their own horn much.

The instant background check was suggested by NRA

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fa...vatesales.aspx

Jan 17,2013
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Background

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which became operational in 1998, verifies that a person seeking to buy a firearm from a gun dealer is not prohibited from doing so by federal or state law.1 The National Rifle Association supported its establishment.2 Gun control supporters opposed NICS, preferring to require a gun purchaser to wait several days after stating the desire to buy a gun, before receiving it from a firearm dealer.3

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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...ra-james-brady

WASHINGTON — For the first time since the riots and assassinations of 1968, the House of Representatives on Wednesday passed major gun-control legislation, responding to a growing national frustration with violence in America in the 1990s.

The House voted 239-186 for the so-called Brady Bill, which would require a seven-day waiting period before purchasers could buy a handgun.............

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The NRA put its considerable political clout and huge amounts of money into defeating the bill, including two full-page ads in Wednesday`s Washington Post at a total cost of about $80,000.

Many on Capitol Hill believed the NRA was being unreasonable in fighting so hard against the Brady Bill. The NRA backed an alternative ``instant check`` proposal, sponsored by Rep. Harley Staggers (D-W.Va.) that experts said would take years and millions of dollars to implement.

You can bet NRA-ILA wrote it for Rep Staggers.
Note newspaper's instant dismissal - "experts said it would take years...." NRA gets worse press than Nixon.

The other links describe how the Brady Bill laid too much responsibility on local law enforcement. It required them to do a background check and tell the local dealer whether it was okay to transfer the firearm. That's what the delay was for, let local sheriff do a background check. That part of it was thrown out by the courts as federal power overstepping state , leading to implementation of the NICS instant background check. The links are a bit lengthy .
Perhaps the best thing to take away from them is that NRA is a reasonable outfit who work within the system.

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http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fa...ICS%22&st=&ps=

The 5-day wait ends and Instant Check begins

Before the Brady bill was passed by Congress, it was amended with an NRA-endorsed provision to require that the five-day wait expire in Nov. 1998, at which time a nationwide Instant Check system will be implemented. (NRA supported, but gun control supporters opposed, a nationwide Instant Check proposed in the 101st Congress by Rep. Harley O. Staggers, D-W.Va.)

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July 16, 1999
The National Instant Check System (NICS) for firearms transactions took effect Nov. 30, 1998, replacing the Brady Act`s five-day waiting period. The following provides answers to some of the most common questions about NICS.

What exactly is NICS?

According to the FBI, NICS "will be a national database containing records of persons who are disqualified from receiving firearms." The NICS computer and analysis center is located in West Virginia, and the FBI is in charge of its operation.
The NICS computerized system is designed to handle most checks in less than 2_ minutes and roughly 150 transactions per minute. It will be open from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. Eastern Time, seven days a week, closed only on Thanksgiving and Christmas. (FBI regulations for the NICS system can be found at http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/index.htm).

NICS seems to work quite well. I've bought a few little .22 single shot rifles to leave to my grandkids, all through dealers at gunshows with background check. I guess i show up "clean" in their computer because there was no three day wait - dealer said they told him i'm okay..

I hope this helps.

old jim

nsaspook

Data point on Jack-booted, the NRA and the ATF.

http://www.hkweaponsystems.com/cgi-b...l?john_dingell

John D. Dingell
United States Representative
"If I were to select a jack-booted group of fascists who were perhaps as large a danger to American society as I could pick today, I would pick BATF. They are a shame and a disgrace to our country."

-U.S. Congressman John D. Dingell (Democrat from Michigan), 1980

"The consequences of the behavior of the BATF in these kinds of cases is that they are not trusted. They are detested, and I have described them properly as jackbooted American fascists. They have shown no concern over the rights of ordinary citizens or their property. They intrude without the slightest regard or concern. Now, if you want a more recent event, take a look at what they did in Waco, TX. Is that a defensible event? Scores of Americans were killed because of ineptitude by BATF acting under legal process, as they said, and that whole matter is going to be suppressed after scores of Americans have been killed because of the ineptitude and crass misbehavior of the BATF."

-U.S. Congressman John D. Dingell (Democrat from Michigan), February 8, 1995

Evo

Quote by jim hardy

wow i see why you had trouble.

NRA doesn't toot their own horn much.

The instant background check was suggested by NRA

Background

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which became operational in 1998, verifies that a person seeking to buy a firearm from a gun dealer is not prohibited from doing so by federal or state law.1 The National Rifle Association supported its establishment.2

Gee, ya think?

Gun control supporters opposed NICS, preferring to require a gun purchaser to wait several days after stating the desire to buy a gun, before receiving it from a firearm dealer.3

Toot their horn for opposing a waiting period to buy a gun? That's a bad thing, no one needs a gun "right now" for any good reason, IMO. Now there is a very poor "instant check" thanks to the NRA, which means that someone is in a rage can go get a gun without a cooling off period and a more thorough check, IMO. I can't believe anyone thinks this is a good thing.

And another thread pulled, once again, completely off topic. All of you, tsk!!

As I said previously in this thread

this thread isn't about gun control. Please leave discussions pro or con guns out.

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