Finding two points on the vector joining two lines

In summary, the problem involves determining the coordinates of two points, P1 and P2, that lie on two given lines, L1 and L2, respectively. The vector between these two points, P1P2, is perpendicular to both lines and can be found using the cross product. By setting up equations using the dot product and the given direction vectors, the values of t and s can be solved for, providing the coordinates of P1 and P2.
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Homework Statement


You are given the two lines with the following parametric equations:

L1:
x = 4 + 2t
y = 4 + t
z = -3 - t

L2:
x = -2 + 3s
y = -7 + 2s
z = 2 - 3s

Both s, and t are elements of a real number.

Determine the coordinates of P1 that lies on L1, and P2 that lies on L2, if vector L1L2 is perpendicular to each of the two lines.


Homework Equations


Cross Product
Dot Product
Parametric,vector, symmetric equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Alright, so I converted the L1 and L2 into their vector equations:
L1{ r = <4,4,-3> + t<2,1,-1> }
L2{ r = <-2,-7,2> + t<3,2,-3> }

The direction vectors are:
m1 = <2,1,-1>
m2 = <3,2,-3>

I took the cross product of both vectors to find the P1P2 vector that is also perpendicular to both the direction vectors of the line; if the line segment is perpendicular to the line, then it is bound to be perpendicular to its direction vectors as well.

m1 X m2 = P1P2
P1P2 = <-1,3,1> after doing all the cross product work.

I know <x - x0, y - y0, z - z0> = P1P2

I assign A(4,4,-3) from L1
I assign B(-2,-7,2) from L2
I know that the two lines share the same normal vector, P1P2, which is <-1,3,1>.

I am stuck here because I don't know how to go on with finding P1 and P2...
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I tried:

Making a line segment AP1 and another line segment BP2 to ultimately solve for the two points, by dot producting each line segment individually with P1P2.

(1) AP1 dot P1P2 = 0
(2) BP2 dot P1P2 = 0

Stopped at (1) because I realized all I accomplished was getting the Cartesian equation -_-
(1) <x - 4, y -4, z - (-3)> dot <-1,3,1> = 0

-1(x-4) + 3(y-4) + 1(z+3) = 0
-1x +4 + 3y -12 +1z + 3 = 0
-1x +3y + 1z -5 = 0
 
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Using different letters for the two lines:

[tex]\vec R = \langle 4, 4, -3\rangle + t\langle 2,1,-1\rangle[/tex]

[tex]\vec S = \langle -2,-7,2\rangle + s\langle 3,2,-3\rangle[/tex]

and you have a normal direction

[tex]\vec N = \langle -1,3,1\rangle[/tex]

which is all good so far. What you are looking for is a point on R and a point on S such that the vector between those points is parallel to N:

[tex]\vec R(t) - \vec S(s) =\lambda \vec N[/tex]

Write that out and you should get three equations in the 3 unknowns t, s, λ. Once you know t and s you have your two points.
 

1. How do you find two points on the vector joining two lines?

To find two points on the vector joining two lines, you can use the intersection point method or the parametric equation method. The intersection point method involves finding the point where the two lines intersect, which will be a point on both lines. The parametric equation method involves using the equations of the two lines to find the coordinates of two points and then calculating the vector between them.

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