Another challenging question, no sine and no cosine law

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem from the book "The Unsolvable and the Solvable" involving two triangles, an isoceles triangle ABC and an equilateral triangle BCD, sharing the side BC. The problem asks to determine angle EDC without using the sine and cosine law, but there is a discrepancy in the diagram with two points labeled as D, making it not a well-defined problem.
  • #1
davedave
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This is the 3rd problem from the book, The Unsolvable and the Solvable.

This is the last one I post from this book. It is pretty challenging.

Once again, it is NOT a homework problem.

Consider an isoceles triangle ABC and an equilateral triangle BCD which share the side BC as shown below. IGNORE the dotted lines in the diagram.


.....A


.....D
.......E

.....B_______________C



......D


D is a point on side AB and E is a point on side AC.

angle DAE=20 degrees
angle DEA=20 degrees
angle EDC=10 degrees
angle ECD=10 degrees
angle DBC=80 degrees
angle DCB=70 degrees
angle BDC=30 degrees

WITHOUT using the sine and the cosine law, determine angle EDC
 
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  • #2
davedave said:
equilateral triangle BCD
[...]
angle BDC=30 degrees

I'd say no solution.
 
  • #3
There are two points labeled D! This is not a well defined problem.
 

1. What does "Another challenging question, no sine and no cosine law" mean?

"Another challenging question, no sine and no cosine law" refers to a mathematical problem or equation that does not involve the use of the sine or cosine laws. These laws are commonly used in trigonometry to solve for unknown sides or angles in triangles.

2. Why is this question considered challenging?

This question is considered challenging because it requires the use of alternative methods or formulas to solve the problem, rather than relying on the commonly used sine and cosine laws.

3. Can you give an example of a problem that does not involve the sine or cosine laws?

One example of a problem that does not involve the sine or cosine laws is finding the area of a triangle using only the lengths of its sides and the Pythagorean theorem.

4. Are there any other laws or formulas that can be used instead of the sine and cosine laws?

Yes, there are other laws and formulas that can be used instead of the sine and cosine laws, such as the Pythagorean theorem, the law of cosines, and the law of sines.

5. How can I approach solving a problem without using the sine or cosine laws?

Approaches to solving a problem without using the sine or cosine laws may include using other trigonometric identities, applying the Pythagorean theorem, or breaking down the problem into smaller, simpler components.

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