Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive

In summary, the conversation revolved around the design of a transit drive that does not reuse fuel. This design involves using two combustion chambers and their respective exhaust nozzles to push the spacecraft forward. The fuel exhausts travel through a series of loops and hit a bulkhead, providing forward thrust. However, the design was deemed ineffective and not possible due to the laws of physics. The conversation ended with a suggestion to draw a diagram to better understand the forces at play.
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First of all this is not a perpetual motion machine and is not the previous U Reusable Fuel Transit Drive I designed earlier. This type of transit drive, which doesn't reuse fuel, works in theory by having two combustion chambers and their respective exhaust nozzles positioned parallel to the spacecraft 's length and perpendicular to its width. Fuel is pumped into the combustion chambers and goes out the two exhaust nozzles at high velocity (the fuel exhausts push the ship forwards when they hit the bulkhead positioned at the fore part of the combustion chambers which is forces 1 and when they exit through the exhuast nozzles which is forces 2), and each fuel exhuast half next travels through a C shaped loop (which is forces 3 & 4 that cancel each other and forces 5) around nearest combustion chamber and then each fuel exhaust travels through its respective symmetrically backwards C shaped loop (which is forces 6 - forces 5 & 6 cancel each other and forces 7 & 8 that cancel each other) until both fuel exhausts hits the ship's bulkhead (forces 9) pushing it more forwards (that bulkhead is parallel to the ship's width and perpendicular to its length). The fuel exhausts don't exit the spacecraft . The structure of the tunnels, combustion chambers, exhaust nozzles, etc. are made up of a theorized new super element I call superglass (the superglass structure negates the necessity of magnetic fields to contain the fuel exhaust particles to keep them from melting spacecraft structure). You'll note that I didn't describe pushing fuel exhausts back into the combustion chambers along the ship's width when they're at forces 9 to become forces 1 again to design this quad thrust fuel transit drive as a perpetual motion machine.
 
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I think that the fuel has to be accelerated again after they hit the fore bulkhead. Looks like a complicated way of burning fuel with no gain to me.
 
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I think I know what you're getting at, and it won't work. But you might want to draw a picture, labeling all of the forces and important points, so that we can tell you exactly why.
 
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If it's a closed system free of any external forces, then the center of mass of the system can not be accelerated.
 
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I have no way of drawing a picture except for an ASCII diagram. What you should do is quote each part of my original message and explain why those forces won't cause acceleration. I can quote your quotes and explain any inability to comprehend my first post in this topic. Think of both of the loops as each being cut at the aft part and those end pieces bent towards and connected to the midship bulkhead.
 
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rcgldr gave the correct answer.

We do not discuss perpetual motion machines on PF, even if someone starts with "this is not a perpetual motion machine".
 

What is a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive?

A Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive is a type of propulsion system used in spacecrafts. It utilizes four separate engines to provide thrust and is powered by a combination of liquid fuel and oxidizer.

How does a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive work?

The four engines of a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive work in unison, firing in a specific sequence to provide thrust and move the spacecraft. The liquid fuel and oxidizer are mixed and ignited in each engine, creating a controlled explosion that propels the spacecraft forward.

What are the advantages of a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive?

One advantage of a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive is its high level of maneuverability. The four separate engines allow for precise control of the spacecraft's movements. Additionally, the use of liquid fuel and oxidizer allows for a higher thrust-to-weight ratio, meaning the spacecraft can travel faster and carry more weight.

What are the limitations of a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive?

One limitation of a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive is its high fuel consumption. The constant firing of four engines requires a large amount of fuel, making it less efficient for long distance travel. Another limitation is the potential for engine failure, as the failure of one engine can impact the entire propulsion system.

How is a Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive different from other propulsion systems?

A Quad Thrust Fuel Transit Drive differs from other propulsion systems in its use of four separate engines. This allows for greater flexibility and precision in the spacecraft's movements. It also differs in its fuel source, as it uses liquid fuel and oxidizer instead of solid fuel or nuclear power.

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