Is permissible stress and tensile strength the same?

[socrates_1]

Hi, I am trying to find out if permissible stress and tensile are the same.If not,what is their relation?Thank you.

 

[Studiot]

First thing to decide is if you mean tensile strength as in your title or tensile stress as your post implies.

Tensile stress refers to a type of stress.
Strength refers to the maximum possible stress of that type that can be applied without failure.
So tensile strength refers to the maximum possible tensile stress, at which point the subject fails.

Permissible stress refers to an amount of stress that will not cause failure.

You should look up 'factor of safety.'

This is the ratio of the strength to permissible ie maximum to permissible and is usually in the range 2.5 : 1 to 8 :1.

 

[socrates_1]

First thing to decide is if you mean tensile strength as in your title or tensile stress as your post implies.

Tensile stress refers to a type of stress.
Strength refers to the maximum possible stress of that type that can be applied without failure.
So tensile strength refers to the maximum possible tensile stress, at which point the subject fails.

Permissible stress refers to an amount of stress that will not cause failure.

You should look up 'factor of safety.'

This is the ratio of the strength to permissible ie maximum to permissible and is usually in the range 2.5 : 1 to 8 :1.

Thank you very much for your response 'Studiot'.
I refer to tensile strength.I know this relation with the factor of safety,but I just have the Lewis factor and premissible stress of the gear,and the calculator for maximum load through Lewis equation requires the tensile strength.I don't have the factor of safety.
Is there any other way to find tensile strength?

Thanks again.

 

[Studiot]

section 7.5 here for instance provides various safety factors.

http://nptel.iitm.ac.in/courses/IIT-MADRAS/Machine_Design_II/pdf/2_7.pdf

You should note that such factors in modern design are compound factors and are called load factors.
Modern design also provides factors applicable to the strength of a material. The strength used is known as the 'characteristic strength' and is measured according to some standard scheme.

Edit

Please note further that you either apply the safety factor to the stress to achieve a safety factor and use the actual nominal loads.
This is the older simpler method called the permissible stress approach.

or

You apply the safety factors to the loads and material properties but use the actual stresses calculated.
This is the more modern, more complicated method, known as limit state analysis.

You do not apply both.

 

[alphy]

Permissible stress and tensile strength are not the same, but they are related concepts. Permissible stress refers to the maximum stress that a material can withstand without experiencing permanent deformation or failure. This is often determined through testing and is typically expressed as a percentage of the material's ultimate tensile strength.

On the other hand, tensile strength is the maximum stress that a material can withstand before breaking or fracturing. It is a measure of a material's ability to resist pulling or stretching forces.

In summary, permissible stress is a limit that is set to ensure the safety and longevity of a material, while tensile strength is a measure of the material's inherent strength. They are both important considerations in engineering and design, but they serve different purposes.