Adding & Subtracting vectors

In summary: A+B| = 4|A-B| = 8because they're collinear :|A| + |B| = 4|A| - |B| = 8=> |A| = 6|B| = 2In summary, if two collinear vectors \vec{A} and \vec{B} are added and subtracted, the resultant magnitudes are 4 and 8 respectively. The magnitudes of the vectors can be 6 and 2, but there is another possibility where they can be -6 and -2 if they are in opposite directions.
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Ammar w
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Homework Statement


If two collinear vectors [itex]\vec{A}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] are added, the resultant has a magnitude equal to 4.0. If [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] is subtracted from [itex]\vec{A}[/itex], the resultant has a magnitude equal to 8.0. What is the magnitude of [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] ?


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The Attempt at a Solution



|A| + |B| = 4.0 (1)
|A| - |B| = 8.0 (2)
sum the two equations :
2|A| = 12
=> |A| = 6.0
substitute in (1) :
6.0 + |B| = 4.0
=> |B| = -2

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is this a complete and right solution??
should I draw the vectors??
 
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Clearly that's wrong since |B| cannot be negative.
Ammar w said:
|A| + |B| = 4.0 (1)
|A| - |B| = 8.0 (2)
Let's step back a bit. They're added as vectors:
|A+B| = 4
|A-B| = 8
Since they're collinear, you have equated |A+B| to |A|+|B| etc., but there is another possibility. Can you see what it is?
 
  • #3
haruspex said:
Clearly that's wrong since |B| cannot be negative.

Let's step back a bit. They're added as vectors:
|A+B| = 4
|A-B| = 8
Since they're collinear, you have equated |A+B| to |A|+|B| etc.,

Thanks haruspex

so the solution :

|A+B| = 4
|A-B| = 8
because they're collinear :
|A| + |B| = 4
|A| - |B| = 8
sum the two equations :
2|A| = 12
|A| = 6
substitute :
6 + |B| = 4
=> |B| = ?

but there is another possibility. Can you see what it is?

do you mean by drawing??
 
  • #4
Ammar w said:
|A+B| = 4
|A-B| = 8
because they're collinear :
|A| + |B| = 4
|A| - |B| = 8
No, you're still making an assumption that's wrong. What if A and B are in opposite directions?
 
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I would like to point out that there are a few issues with this solution. First, it is important to note that vectors are not just represented by their magnitudes, but also by their direction. So, the equations should be written as |A| + |B| = 4.0 and |A| - |B| = 8.0, where the addition and subtraction take into account the direction of the vectors.

Additionally, the solution provided does not take into account the fact that the vectors are collinear, meaning they have the same direction. Therefore, the magnitude of B cannot be negative, as it would not make sense for a vector to have a negative magnitude.

To solve this problem correctly, we can use the fact that the vectors are collinear to write |A| = k|B|, where k is a constant. Substituting this into the two equations, we get:

k|B| + |B| = 4.0 and k|B| - |B| = 8.0

Solving for k, we get k = 3/4, which means |A| = (3/4)|B|. Substituting this into the first equation, we get:

(3/4)|B| + |B| = 4.0

Solving for |B|, we get |B| = 16/7. Therefore, the magnitude of B is 16/7 units.

To conclude, as a scientist, it is important to pay attention to the details and take into account all the given information when solving a problem. Drawing a diagram can also be helpful in visualizing the problem and arriving at the correct solution.
 

1. What is a vector?

A vector is a mathematical representation of a quantity that has both magnitude (size or length) and direction. It is typically represented by an arrow pointing in the direction of the vector with its length corresponding to the magnitude of the vector.

2. How do you add two vectors?

To add two vectors, you must first align them so that their tails are touching. Then, draw a new vector from the tail of the first vector to the head of the second vector. The resulting vector is the sum of the two original vectors.

3. Can you subtract vectors?

Yes, vectors can be subtracted just like they can be added. To subtract a vector, you must first flip the direction of the vector you want to subtract and then follow the same steps as adding vectors.

4. What is the difference between adding and subtracting vectors?

The main difference between adding and subtracting vectors is the direction of the resulting vector. When adding vectors, the resulting vector points in the same direction as the original vectors, while when subtracting vectors, the resulting vector points in the opposite direction as the original vectors.

5. Are there any special rules for adding or subtracting vectors?

Yes, there are a few special rules to keep in mind when adding or subtracting vectors. These include the commutative property, where the order of the vectors does not matter, and the associative property, where grouping the vectors differently will not change the result. It is also important to remember that vectors must have the same units and be in the same dimension in order to be added or subtracted.

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