Does friction in any way increase when the surfaces get very smooth

In summary, the conversation discusses whether friction increases when surfaces become very smooth. The teacher suggests that it can increase due to electromagnetism and recommends researching cold welding. The participants then discuss the concept of van der Waals forces and whether they fall under electromagnetism. It is concluded that van der Waals forces are a type of electromagnetism.
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arun babu
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does friction in any way increase when the surfaces get very smooth ...?

a teacher told us that it can increase due to electromagnetism...is it true...i searched the net but couldn't get any useful info...
 
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arildno said:
Look up on the subject of cold welding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_welding

thanks arildno...i viewed the above linked and learned that when very smooth surfaces are brought together in vacuum they adhere very strongly to each other...but it is due to van der waals forces right?k...this may be a silly question...but does van der waals forces come under electromagnetism...
 
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Yes, van der Waals-forces ARE electromagnetism written small.
 
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I can say that the concept of friction and its relationship with smooth surfaces is a complex one. The teacher's statement about friction increasing due to electromagnetism is partially true. When surfaces are very smooth, there is less surface roughness and therefore less interlocking of surface asperities. This can lead to a decrease in friction. However, at the same time, the smoothness of the surfaces can also lead to increased contact area between the surfaces, resulting in increased friction.

Additionally, the presence of electromagnetism can also play a role in friction. Electromagnetic forces can cause the surfaces to stick together, leading to an increase in friction. However, the strength of these forces depends on the materials and conditions involved.

In conclusion, the relationship between friction and smooth surfaces is not straightforward and can vary depending on multiple factors. Further research and experimentation may be needed to fully understand the impact of smoothness and electromagnetism on friction.
 

1. How does smoothness affect friction?

Smooth surfaces typically have less friction than rough surfaces because there are fewer points of contact between the two surfaces. This means that there is less resistance to motion, resulting in less friction.

2. Does the type of material affect friction on smooth surfaces?

Yes, the type of material can greatly affect friction on smooth surfaces. For example, materials with a lower coefficient of friction, such as Teflon, will have less friction on smooth surfaces compared to materials with a higher coefficient of friction, such as rubber.

3. Can smoothness eliminate friction completely?

No, even on extremely smooth surfaces, there will still be some amount of friction present. This is because there will always be some points of contact between the two surfaces, no matter how smooth they are.

4. Is there a limit to how smooth a surface can be before friction is eliminated?

Yes, there is a limit to how smooth a surface can be before friction is eliminated. This is because at a certain point, the surfaces will be so smooth that there will be no points of contact between them, resulting in no friction. However, reaching this level of smoothness is practically impossible.

5. Does friction increase as surfaces get smoother?

No, as surfaces get smoother, friction typically decreases rather than increases. This is because there are fewer points of contact between the surfaces, resulting in less resistance to motion and therefore less friction.

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