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Hello, this topic is about Iran Airforce and its capabilities. I am an aviation analyst from Iran and I will provide you any information you need...
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Let's not get into mud slinging here. I happen to know a few people of Iranian descent here in the states and they are good people. Don't paint with such a broad brush. We have a chance to learn about Iran's armed forces from someone who is there and covers this. Let's give him a chance.lunarmansion said:Which means you work for those religious loonies running the country. What is it like working for them? I would imagine it must be hard to be any kind of scientist in such a place. On the one hand, one wants to work for the good of one's country, but then on the other hand, one has to work under a fundamentalist regime.
I think the "today" part of this statement is highly debateable. The F-18 is much more advanced than the F-14, and when you start to look at the capabilities of F-117, F-22, F-35, Eurofighter, and many others it is difficult to say that any of the aircraft on your list are the most advanced fighter of today. And I have not even mentioned the "black" fighters that are not even acknowledged today...Jet-designer said:Iran had purchased 180 F-4Ds, F-4Es and RF-4Es, about 200 F-5Es, and 80 F-14A tomcat which was the most advanced fighter of that days, and even todays.
I hope it doesn't. It's not too often that we get a chaance to talk to someone from a country that is pretty shut off from western culture. That's why I was hoping his blog was in English.Clausius2 said:I pretty much know that this thread is going to end burning...
Will any of the web-based translators work on his home page? I don't know much about the translator software capabilities.FredGarvin said:I hope it doesn't. It's not too often that we get a chaance to talk to someone from a country that is pretty shut off from western culture. That's why I was hoping his blog was in English.
You know, didn't even think about that. I'll try it. Thanks for the suggestion.berkeman said:Will any of the web-based translators work on his home page? I don't know much about the translator software capabilities.
Your intelligence, that was used in your analysis, that lead to your conclusions is severely flawed. I'm certainly not going to correct your analysis, but if you think engagement ranges for F-18 are limited to 30 miles, you are missing several other pieces of the puzzle. I hope the Iranian government is not relying on your analysis for military planning, because if they are things don't look so good. And by the way, one has to detect and lock-on to a target before one can engage it. Know what I mean?Jet-designer said:In fact, by retiring the F-14s, the USN has limited its fighters engagement range to only 30 miles, while Iranian F-14 are capable of scaning and engaging targets-including those dummy F/A-18- from 120 miles away, before even the F/A-18 pilot can understand the situation, a phoenix comes and explodes everything...
So you're saying that Iran has operational F-14A's? With operational Phoenix missiles? Do your aircraft use the Hughes radar system that was built for the phoenix? Where did the 30 mile number come from? Can you tell me about the maintenance infrastructure Iran has to keep the F14's operational?Jet-designer said:From the 57 remaining F-14s, about 40 of them are fully operational with the the domestic-built phoenix missiles, equaling the AIM-54C in service with USN, and the 17 tomcats that are not operational are being overhauled for entering service as soon as possible.
In fact, by retiring the F-14s, the USN has limited its fighters engagement range to only 30 miles, while Iranian F-14 are capable of scaning and engaging targets-including those dummy F/A-18- from 120 miles away, before even the F/A-18 pilot can understand the situation, a phoenix comes and explodes everything...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/airforce.htmAs of 2000 it was estimated that only 40 of the 132 F-4Ds, 177 F-4Es and 16 RF-4E. Phantoms delivered before 1979 remained in service. At that time, approximately 45 of the 169 F-5E/Fs delivered are still flying, while perhaps 20 F-14A Tomcats of the 79 initially delivered were airworthy. Another 30 F-4s, 30 F-5s and 35 F-14s have been cannibalized for spare parts. One report suggested that the IRIAF can get no more than seven F-14s airborne at anyone time. Iran claims to have fitted F-14s with I-Hawk missiles adapted to the air-to-air role.
Quite honestly, I am amazed. The last estimate I heard was that an F-14 required approximately 4 hours of maintenance time per hour of flight time. Since Iran acquired these aircraft in the '80s, that means Iran has kept some flying for 20+ years with no support in terms of engine or airframe parts. This just brings up more questions in my mind.Jet-designer said:Dear Fred, Of course iran has operational F-14s, I have seen them in the sky many times, delta-winged...
here is a new picture of Iranian F-14A fully loaded with AIM-54/7/9.
http://f-14tomcat.persiangig.com/phpBlxU0LAM.jpg
Holy cow. Are you serious? No wonder you guys are drop-punting them. ;)FredGarvin said:Quite honestly, I am amazed. The last estimate I heard was that an F-14 required approximately 4 hours of maintenance time per hour of flight time.
It's not. And Russ hinted at the appropriate metric by which these things are tracked:FredGarvin said:Honestly, coming from a rotary wing guy, I didn't think 4 hours was all that bad myself.
RainmanAero said:I'm not permitted to reveal the actual MMH/FH, but I assure you it is higher than 4:1. :yuck:
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that was used in your analysis, that lead to your conclusions is severely flawed.
Nope. I work in El Segundo, CA (right next door to LAX) on the new NASA Crew Exploration Vehicle. Rumor on the street says we (with our Boeing teammate) are going to be announced the winner on 31 August. That would get me to retirement!FredGarvin said:RainmanAero,
Do you work in Bethpage?
Oh yeah? I looked into trying to get in with Wyle out there as well. I looked at a lot of places.RainmanAero said:Hi Fred, Nope. I work in El Segundo, CA (right next door to LAX) on the new NASA Crew Exploration Vehicle. Rumor on the street says we (with our Boeing teammate) are going to be announced the winner on 31 August. That would get me to retirement!
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Just curious -- does the F-14 have to land in order to launch its SAM missles?Jet-designer said:
But why on Earth would you decide to do that? As an Iranian I myself think I don't have enough information about our own Airforce. So if you really want to do something useful, I guess you better give more information about our own airforce to Iranians!Jet-designer said:Hello, this topic is about Iran Airforce and its capabilities. I am an aviation analyst from Iran and I will provide you any information you need...
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Allah is Arabic! You should say "khoda" which is persian.Clausius2 said:Oh my Godness! (or may I say Oh my Allah in this thread).
Jet-designer said:No, No... Not at all, this is an """""Air Launched"""" version of MIM-23B Hawk SAM Missile...